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GypsyGoth · 22-12-2010, 12:49 AM

InOne · 22-12-2010, 12:53 AM

Lee. · 22-12-2010, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Well they hammered nails through his wrists as punishment because they thought he was lying, why not say that?

And you kind of put your foot in it by telling her Jesus was real, not denying God's existance and then saying that he didnt come back to life tbh

Oh yeah.. I'm going to tell a 6 year old that the normal punishment for lying is crucifiction!

How did I out my foot in it? I believe there was a man called Jesus.. I don't belive in god though. I don't belive JC's mam was a virgin,I don't belive he could walk on water and I certainly don't belive he rose from the dead! It's NOT true and anybody who argues these points with me must be barking!

Mystic Mock · 22-12-2010, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrooge

Jesus loves you. Well, maybe...

i do.

\PJ/ · 22-12-2010, 01:18 AM

I can not be bothered to read all of that but yes you are right to be angry, it's a humans right to experience all emotions.

MTVN · 22-12-2010, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by happyland

Oh yeah.. I'm going to tell a 6 year old that the normal punishment for lying is crucifiction!

How did I out my foot in it? I believe there was a man called Jesus.. I don't belive in god though. I don't belive JC's mam was a virgin,I don't belive he could walk on water and I certainly don't belive he rose from the dead! It's NOT true and anybody who argues these points with me must be barking!

Umm.. where did I say "normal" punishment? I didnt. It was simply the punishment they used for Jesus, nothing normal about it, well it wouldnt be normal today. Back then crucifixition was a method of punishment, I dont see the problem with telling your daughter what used to be done.

You told her that Jesus was real, you didnt deny the existance of God, therefore it is logical for her to assume that what she heard about Jesus was correct. I dont care whether you think Christians are "barking" or not, but you cannot ignore the fact that Easter & Christmas exist because of Christianity and I'm not surprised the school discussed the origins behind the two holidays.

Look, you asked for members opinions and I gave you mine. That's fine if you dont agree with me but dont get wound up over what I say after you ask for input.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters · 22-12-2010, 01:31 AM

i was desensitised to this stuff at an early age coz i sneaked the evil dead out of my sisters room and watched it when i was like 5

i pissed the bed every night for weeks after

Fetch The Bolt Cutters · 22-12-2010, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by \PJ/

I can not be bothered to read all of that but yes you are right to be angry, it's a humans right to experience all emotions.

Lee. · 22-12-2010, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Umm.. where did I say "normal" punishment? I didnt. It was simply the punishment they used for Jesus, nothing normal about it, well it wouldnt be normal today. Back then crucifixition was a method of punishment, I dont see the problem with telling your daughter what used to be done.

You told her that Jesus was real, you didnt deny the existance of God, therefore it is logical for her to assume that what she heard about Jesus was correct. I dont care whether you think Christians are "barking" or not, but you cannot ignore the fact that Easter & Christmas exist because of Christianity and I'm not surprised the school discussed the origins behind the two holidays.

Look, you asked for members opinions and I gave you mine. That's fine if you dont agree with me but dont get wound up over what I say after you ask for input.

I'm not wound up at all.. not in the slightest. This thing we're doing is called deabte and is perfectly healthy and not personal in the slightest. I like you but also like the fact that we can discuss our differing opinions, hopefull without falling out..

However, I need to sleep so shall hit they hay now.

To be continued...

MTVN · 22-12-2010, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by happyland

I'm not wound up at all.. not in the slightest. This thing we're doing is called deabte and is perfectly healthy and not personal in the slightest. I like you but also like the fact that we can discuss our differing opinions, hopefull without falling out..

However, I need to sleep so shall hit they hay now.

To be continued...

Ok, fair enough

Guess I was wrong, I just thought you seemed a bit pissed off

letmein · 22-12-2010, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

R.E is now a compulsory subject as well I believe; it is expected that she will learn the history of Christianity isnt it?

I dont know whether it is a religous school or how much they've taught about Christianity but I would have thought it would be made clear that Jesus was a bit of a special case?

They are just saying what is said in the Bible, you may personally believe it is far fetched stories but I doubt they will. Why would crucifixtion be far fetched anyway? Personally, I dont think you can ignore the reason behind these holidays. If you dont believe in God fair enough, but the whole point of Easter is supposed to be to celebrate Jesus' resurrection so it's not that surprising that it was mentioned in an Easter service

"Easter" came from the Pagans, and the Christians stole it. That's just a historical fact.

letmein · 22-12-2010, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by happyland

It's not a religious school.. Just a run of the mill primary school!

Then you have every right to be angry, and I would do something about it. I'm not sure what the laws are in your country of origin though.

Lee. · 22-12-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by letmein

Then you have every right to be angry, and I would do something about it. I'm not sure what the laws are in your country of origin though.

Oh I don't think there are any laws involved really.. I'm not bothered about them learning about religion, as long as they are taught about other religions too and don't have Christianity rammed down their throat and told that that's the only religion! I just think that for infants,the school makes things a bit graphic

Marc · 22-12-2010, 02:00 PM

That can be pretty hard to explain to a child! Why show it at such a young age? They're not going to understand the whole extent of it all

Lee. · 22-12-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marczipan

That can be pretty hard to explain to a child! Why show it at such a young age? They're not going to understand the whole extent of it all

That's kinda how I feel.. I mean, I've nothing against the yearly nativity play,they always make it fun and it's lovely to see and they are made aware of Jesus and the xmas story through that, but to show them a film of Jesus having a nail hammered through his wrist whilst alive (this is what seems to have upset her the most;the fact that he was alive) is IMO a little OTT for 6 year olds..

Jack_ · 22-12-2010, 02:06 PM

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Jords · 22-12-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by \PJ/

I can not be bothered to read all of that but yes you are right to be angry, it's a humans right to experience all emotions.

Harry! · 22-12-2010, 02:08 PM

This is why schools have become to PC and 'Health and Saftey'. The story of Jesus' crucifixition shouldn't be taught at christmas time as it is not the correct time as it happened.

Mystic Mock · 22-12-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by happyland

Oh I don't think there are any laws involved really.. I'm not bothered about them learning about religion, as long as they are taught about other religions too and don't have Christianity rammed down their throat and told that that's the only religion! I just think that for infants,the school makes things a bit graphic

well my primary school was a church of england and i learnt more about the muslim religion than the others.

Barbie · 22-12-2010, 04:59 PM

Your daughter is going to be exposed to religion, she will make up her own mind on the matter and probably like you decide its a load of rubbish.

the video is a bit worrying for me, depends on how graphic the film was. I remember being shown one of it and for my age then it was too graphic. This is the only bit you should be annoyed about i think.