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Old 29-05-2011, 08:04 PM #1
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Why are Y'all saying yes. So are you saying if someone you loved took an overdose you would leave them to die.

Do not think so.
You know nothing.

My mum lived in constant pain since I was about four years old, there was no chance of her ever getting better, she had to take a bunch of tablets every day, four times a day, she lived like this for around 10 years, I don't blame her for what she did, not only was she not happy, it wasnt fair on my family either, due to her being so ill, I underachived when I was at school, since I never turned up, I was scared of leaving her home alone, due to this I got overweight. It was hard losing her, it still is, but I know she tried her best, but what she was living was hardly what I'd call a forfilled life.

So yeah, you know nothing.
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You know nothing.

My mum lived in constant pain since I was about four years old, there was no chance of her ever getting better, she had to take a bunch of tablets every day, four times a day, she lived like this for around 10 years, I don't blame her for what she did, not only was she not happy, it wasnt fair on my family either, due to her being so ill, I underachived when I was at school, since I never turned up, I was scared of leaving her home alone, due to this I got overweight. It was hard losing her, it still is, but I know she tried her best, but what she was living was hardly what I'd call a forfilled life.

So yeah, you know nothing.
You are the one who know's nothing my dear.

Would you rather your mum kill herself??? She kept going which is the right thing to do.

I have survived open heart surgery after a fatal stabbing. I believe life is blessed. Suicide is WRONG and SELFISH.
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You are the one who know's nothing my dear.

Would you rather your mum kill herself??? She kept going which is the right thing to do.

I have survived open heart surgery after a fatal stabbing. I believe life is blessed. Suicide is WRONG and SELFISH.
I'd rather she lived, but to be honest, they cycle I was stuck in would have lead to me living a half life, I'm not saying I wanted her to die, but it actually lead to me getting some normality in my life, I would in no way say she was selfish.
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I'd rather she lived, but to be honest, they cycle I was stuck in would have lead to me living a half life, I'm not saying I wanted her to die, but it actually lead to me getting some normality in my life, I would in no way say she was selfish.
I do not understand. Did she commit suicide??
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In all honesty though - what are the police going to do?

Handcuff the ******ing corpse?
Making it illegal is almost as pointless as making Cannabis illegal.
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The only time it shouldn't be allowed is for people serving life in prison.
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The only time it shouldn't be allowed is for people serving life in prison.
I would so kill myself if I was given life, honestly.
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Suicide is SELFISH and WRONG!!!

No one should be allowed to. By saying yes you are effectively saying Serial Killers should "have the right" to kill themselves.
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Suicide is SELFISH and WRONG!!!

No one should be allowed to. By saying yes you are effectively saying Serial Killers should "have the right" to kill themselves.
Yeah it's selfish and wrong most of the time, I agree, but so is denying others their personal freedoms to do whatever they want with their own bodies and minds as long as they are not harming others.

Yeah you could say they are causing loved ones great anguish but that's just the harsh reality of it. What are you going to do, tie up someone and keep them sectioned off in a room because you want them to stick around on good ol' planet earth?

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Suicide is SELFISH and WRONG!!!

No one should be allowed to. By saying yes you are effectively saying Serial Killers should "have the right" to kill themselves.

If serial killers think they have the right to take other people's lives they shouldn't be given a chance to kill themselves. They should be shot in the head.
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If serial killers think they have the right to take other people's lives they shouldn't be given a chance to kill themselves. They should be shot in the head.
Good point.
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Suicide is SELFISH and WRONG!!!

No one should be allowed to. By saying yes you are effectively saying Serial Killers should "have the right" to kill themselves.
They do, and if they would, they'd really be helping us out!

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I don't think suicide is ever something people should go to, no matter how bad their situation, but if that person wants to then that's their choice.

Also I agree about the prison thing.
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I think everyone here is missing the point.

If someone tried to kill themselves and was dieing do you think it is moral to just sit back and leave them to die. NO!!!

You would call an ambulance and try to save them!!

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I think everyone here is missing the point.

If someone tried to kill themselves and was dieing do you think it is moral to just sit back and leave them to die. NO!!!

You would call an ambulance and try to save them!!
of course you would.
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I think everyone here is missing the point.

If someone tried to kill themselves and was dieing do you think it is moral to just sit back and leave them to die. NO!!!

You would call an ambulance and try to save them!!
That's got nothing to do with it.

Obviously people would call an ambulance if such a thing happened. It's the natural human reaction to try and save someone. But that doesn't conflict with the view that people should be allowed do it. If it was happening right in front of you you would try and stop it sure but most people are discreet about it, aren't they.

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That's got nothing to do with it.
Obviously people would call an ambulance if such a thing happened. It's the natural human reaction to try and save someone. But that doesn't conflict with the view that people should be allowed do it. If it was happening right in front of you you would try and stop it sure but most people are discreet about it, aren't they.
No, you are saying people "SHOULD be Allowed to" Therefore you would leave them to die because you are saying it is their "right" to do it.
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No, you are saying people "SHOULD be Allowed to" Therefore you would leave them to die because you are saying it is their "right" to do it.
Right. Now read the bit under the bold text you formatted. That's my reply.
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Right. Now read the bit under the bold text you formatted. That's my reply.
It is not a very good reply because you are saying that it is "Allowed" to kill themselves yet you would save someone who did try to kill themselves.

Do not think so.
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I think everyone here is missing the point.

If someone tried to kill themselves and was dieing do you think it is moral to just sit back and leave them to die. NO!!!

You would call an ambulance and try to save them!!
Yea I would but thats just stopping one attempt, if they want to die you can't stop them from trying again until they succeed
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Do you think it is right that for example, an independent Mother who is stuggling should kill herself leaving her children to fend for themselves.
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I think everyone here is missing the point.

If someone tried to kill themselves and was dieing do you think it is moral to just sit back and leave them to die. NO!!!

You would call an ambulance and try to save them!!
Yes but if they begged me to let them die and I could see the seriousness in their eyes I would let them die.

Its someones own choice to kill themselves and I don't thinks its fair to call it selfish and cowardly because people make decisions for their own reasons and you cant really say wether it was right or wrong unless you've been in that position.

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Yes but if they begged me to let them die and I could see the seriousness in their eyes I would let them die.

Its someones own choice to kill themselves and I don't thinks its fair to call it selfish and cowardly because people make decisions for their own reasons and you cant really say wether it was right or wrong unless you've been in that position.
You would leave them to die!!!

That is near to murder!!!!

YOU would be responsible for leaving them to die!!! YOU would face the consequences from their family!!! Anyone could have seriousness in their eyes, for all you know the person may have been under medication that was making them depressed and thus may have not wanted to kill themselves if they where not under that medication. I have no Idea how anyone would just leave someone to die.
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You would leave them to die!!!

That is near to murder!!!!

YOU would be responsible for leaving them to die!!! YOU would face the consequences from their family!!! Anyone could have seriousness in their eyes, for all you know the person may have been under medication that was making them depressed and thus may have not wanted to kill themselves if they where not under that medication. I have no Idea how anyone would just leave someone to die.
No its not near to murder. How is it my responsibility in the first place?

Obviously I would but if someone wouldn't stop begging me why should I force them to live and be put in a mental home or something when they made the decision to kill themselves. Even if they were on drugs its still their body and their choices so who am I to stop letting them do as they please.
I would call an ambulance in most cases but not definitely all.

Just because I know if I chose to kill myself I would not want others trying to make me stop if I knew I really wanted too. And you don't know if there is an after life so if there is a heaven like place that one goes to, then why deny them the ability to explore the fact of a better place and make them suffer living. Depression can be torture and I bet you think killing instantly is better than torture if it was like being done by a serial killer or something.

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