[Suze]

Originally Posted by pegson123

lol i never saw aaron kiss harry on the lips?

On BBs BOTS, he went over to Harry, cupped his face in his hands and plonked a smacker on his lips, Harry looked stunned for a minute I think that's how it happened, but the evening of Aaron's win was a bit of a whirl

[joeysteele]

It's a mystery to me why this Lauren person gets so much publicity, she is truly awful with nothing interesting to say and pretty unpleasant to look at too.

[Mystic Mock]

Well she is the Derry of Big Brother by making up ****.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by kazanne

when i went into the toilet louise was in there with the door open,

[MTVN]

A homeophobe? Urban Dictionary tells me that's someone with a fear of going home early

[smartalec2718]

Originally Posted by MTVN

A homeophobe? Urban Dictionary tells me that's someone with a fear of going home early

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by kazanne

I really dislike this sheman

How ironic that in a thread to do with discrimination you choose to use, quite unnecessarily, a fairly offensive and discriminatory term towards transgenders.

I'm against what Lauren is claiming, but is there any need really?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Jack_

How ironic that in a thread to do with discrimination you choose to use, quite unnecessarily, a fairly offensive and discriminatory term towards transgenders.

I'm against what Lauren is claiming, but is there any need really?

Good point

[Lex]

No matter whether Harry is homeophobic or not...he is still a two faced back stabbing sod!!...And he was rather quick to rule out the humorous fully-clothed posing for a gay mag task....so there may be a 'no smoke without fire' element to Laurens story...?

Either way....it seems that Lauren can only expect a week at most in the house, judging by the way that this forum have already condemmed her for being 'different'!....Which is a shame because I think that she is quirky enough to be a great and interesting housemate!!

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Lex

No matter whether Harry is homeophobic or not...he is still a two faced back stabbing sod!!...And he was rather quick to rule out the humorous fully-clothed posing for a gay mag task....so there may be a 'no smoke without fire' element to Laurens story...?

Either way....it seems that Lauren can only expect a week at most in the house, judging by the way that this forum have already condemmed her for being 'different'!....Which is a shame because I think that she is quirky enough to be a great and interesting housemate!!

That was going to be an underwear shoot, not fully clothed, I would have refused to do that as well tbf

[Bluerang1]

And if he is, it's his deal. Lauren's off my like list now.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Lex

No matter whether Harry is homeophobic or not...he is still a two faced back stabbing sod!!...And he was rather quick to rule out the humorous fully-clothed posing for a gay mag task....so there may be a 'no smoke without fire' element to Laurens story...?

Either way....it seems that Lauren can only expect a week at most in the house, judging by the way that this forum have already condemmed her for being 'different'!....Which is a shame because I think that she is quirky enough to be a great and interesting housemate!!

Wrong..... she has not been condemned for being "different", its more about her personality, I could get over her bitchy comments and self promotion, if she had a warm and funny personality, but she has neither traits in my opinion. Shes about as funny as a wet ham sandwich. Not sure if you saw her response when asked by Emma what she would bring to the house...she replied " outfits, I would change outfits at least 5 times a day", now given her penchant for wearing black (a) Im not sure we would notice she had changed and (b) thats not bringing anything to the house except a large suitcase imo.

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by MTVN

A homeophobe? Urban Dictionary tells me that's someone with a fear of going home early

Maybe Harry does have an irrational fear of going home early, you never know what might await him?

[Marc]

She doesn't deserve niceness

[Angus]

Originally Posted by kazanne

I really dislike this sheman,now she disses Harry,Wonder what Harry did or said to make her say that
LAUREN HARRIES
@Crownjulez found Harry to be homeophobic when he worked with me & Pete, I understand why he wouldn't pose in a gay magazine

https://twitter.com/laurenotw

Both the hags have massive chips on their shoulders. They interpret any dislike of their characters and personalities as homophobia instead of being able to accept that people dislike them because they are hateful, vindictive bitches.

[Elzo]

I found myself asking throughout this whole series, who the **** is Lauren?!

[HBB1508]

Can't stand Lauren and really hope she isn't on CBB.

[alex_front2]

Lauren seems to me like a lot of gay/ transgender (LGBT) folk who will dismiss anyone who dares not to like them as being homophobic/ transgenderphobic etc.

PS Not wanting to pose in a gay mag does not make you homophobic any more than a woman (eg BB9 winner Rachel Rice) who refuse to pose for straight lad mags. Besides a straight man is 100% entitled to not want to encourage gay men fancying him.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Disliking two highly irritating gay people makes someone homophobic? Who would have thought it?

Shes not gay shes a transexual.

[Niamh.]

Pete and Lauren are horrible, rude and ignorant people. I wouldn't want to spend anytime with them either. I don't see what their sexuality has to do with that.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Shes not gay shes a transexual.

First of all not everyone believes in transgender for various reasons eg religion/ culture/ science. That you can't actually change your assigned birth gender any more than you can change your race, so to a lot of people the likes of Lauren Harries is just a bitchy gay man who's had a vagina installed.

When I meet transgendered people I will always treat them in the way they want to be treated, so if I met Lauren I'd regard her to her face as being a woman. But in private I will see her as a bloke, but never let this be known to her out of respect for what she wants. To be honest I used to believe in transgenderism, and supported it now I am cynical and think people just change gender as they can't hack being in their birth gender. What I think in private is up to me and I refuse to tow the PC-line, but again I would never let on to a transgendered person as they should never be made to feel uncomfortable. An effeminate man deciding he would make a better woman as he's never going to live up to the ideal of the macho man. Rather than changing gender, I would rather society accepted that some men are effeminate and some women are butch. There's a who spectrum of people. You don't have to be a woman to be feminine and not all women are feminine anyway.

For me now gender isn't something you can actively participate in changing - it's given to you when you are born (unless you are inter-sexual). If you can change your gender then you can change your race and ethnicity! And there is growing number of transgender people who are changing back to their birth gender 'oh I am bored of being a female now, I now want to be a bloke again'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ws-hed-be.html

http://deaconjohnspace.wordpress.com...ge-operations/

Why don't we have men who want to become butch women? Why are all male to female transgenders wanting to be frilly, girly and feminine? I grew up pa girl who liked playing football and playing with action men, but it didn't make me want to be a boy. Why aren't there men who want to be tomboys as tomboys are still female. I am actually insulted when transgendered women say 'I always wanted to be a girl as I liked playing with dolls and wearing pink' Erm, I didn't.

And even those that do accept transgenderism/ transsexualism etc see it as part of the LGBT spectrum even though most male - to - female transgender women will be women who fancy men ie straight women.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

First of all not everyone believes in transgender for various reasons eg religion/ culture/ science. That you can't actually change your assigned birth gender any more than you can change your race, so to a lot of people the likes of Lauren Harries is just a bitchy gay man who's had a vagina installed.

When I meet transgendered people I will always treat them in the way they want to be treated, so if I met Lauren I'd regard her to her face as being a woman. But in private I will see her as a bloke, but never let this be known to her out of respect for what she wants. To be honest I used to believe in transgenderism, and supported it now I am cynical and think people just change gender as they can't hack being in their birth gender. An effeminate man deciding he would make a better woman as he's never going to live up to the ideal of the macho man. Rather than changing gender, I would rather society accepted that some men are effeminate and some women are butch. There's a who spectrum of people. You don't have to be a woman to be feminine and not all women are feminine anyway.

For me now gender isn't something you can actively participate in changing - it's given to you when you are born (unless you are inter-sexual). And there is growing number of transgender people who are changing back to their birth gender 'oh I am bored of being a female now, I now want to be a bloke again'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ws-hed-be.html

http://deaconjohnspace.wordpress.com...ge-operations/

Why don't we have men who want to become butch women? Why are all male to female transgenders wanting to be frilly, girly and feminine? I grew up pa girl who liked playing football and playing with action men, but it didn't make me want to be a boy. Why aren't there men who want to be tomboys as tomboys are still female. I am actually insulted when transgendered women say 'I always wanted to be a girl as I liked playing with dolls and wearing pink' Erm, I didn't.

And even those that do accept transgenderism/ transsexualism etc see it as part of the LGBT spectrum even though most male - to - female transgender women will be women who fancy men ie straight women.

Being gay and being born feeling you were a straight woman trapped in a mans body are 2 different things.

Gay and transgender are not the same thing.

Some of your points here are also rediculous

[/I][/B]"An effeminate man deciding he would make a better woman as he's never going to live up to the ideal of the macho man. Rather than changing gender, I would rather society accepted that some men are effeminate and some women are butch."

Thats not what transgender is. Being transgender is something you are, not what you choose to do. Being transgender means that they NEED to change thier body and not just live as an effimenate man that is just absurd! as to put it bluntly they want a vag not a penis.

And there is growing number of transgender people who are changing back to their birth gender 'oh I am bored of being a female now, I now want to be a bloke again'

Its not because they are bored lol some transgender do feel they made a genuine mistake. These people however are not transgender there is a difference. And proof of the growing number please?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

First of all not everyone believes in transgender for various reasons eg religion/ culture/ science. That you can't actually change your assigned birth gender any more than you can change your race, so to a lot of people the likes of Lauren Harries is just a bitchy gay man who's had a vagina installed.

When I meet transgendered people I will always treat them in the way they want to be treated, so if I met Lauren I'd regard her to her face as being a woman. But in private I will see her as a bloke, but never let this be known to her out of respect for what she wants. To be honest I used to believe in transgenderism, and supported it now I am cynical and think people just change gender as they can't hack being in their birth gender. An effeminate man deciding he would make a better woman as he's never going to live up to the ideal of the macho man. Rather than changing gender, I would rather society accepted that some men are effeminate and some women are butch. There's a who spectrum of people. You don't have to be a woman to be feminine and not all women are feminine anyway.

For me now gender isn't something you can actively participate in changing - it's given to you when you are born (unless you are inter-sexual). And there is growing number of transgender people who are changing back to their birth gender 'oh I am bored of being a female now, I now want to be a bloke again'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ws-hed-be.html

http://deaconjohnspace.wordpress.com...ge-operations/

Why don't we have men who want to become butch women? Why are all male to female transgenders wanting to be frilly, girly and feminine? I grew up pa girl who liked playing football and playing with action men, but it didn't make me want to be a boy. Why aren't there men who want to be tomboys as tomboys are still female. I am actually insulted when transgendered women say 'I always wanted to be a girl as I liked playing with dolls and wearing pink' Erm, I didn't.

And even those that do accept transgenderism/ transsexualism etc see it as part of the LGBT spectrum even though most male - to - female transgender women will be women who fancy men ie straight women.

Being gay and being born feeling you were a straight woman trapped in a mans body are 2 different things.

Gay and transgender are not the same thing.

Some of your points here are also rediculous

An effeminate man deciding he would make a better woman as he's never going to live up to the ideal of the macho man. Rather than changing gender, I would rather society accepted that some men are effeminate and some women are butch

Thats not what transgender is. Being transgender is something you are, not what you choose to do. Being transgender means that they NEED to change thier body and not just live as an effimenate man that is just absurd! as to put it bluntly they want a vag not a penis.

And there is growing number of transgender people who are changing back to their birth gender 'oh I am bored of being a female now, I now want to be a bloke again'


You actually think people get "bored" haha. Its not because of that its because they realise they actually made a mistake and these people are NOT transgender. Transgender is a fact and is 100% differet from being gay.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Being gay and being born feeling you were a straight woman trapped in a mans body are 2 different things.

Gay and transgender are not the same thing.

Some of your points here are also rediculous

[/I][/B]"An effeminate man deciding he would make a better woman as he's never going to live up to the ideal of the macho man. Rather than changing gender, I would rather society accepted that some men are effeminate and some women are butch."

Thats not what transgender is. Being transgender is something you are, not what you choose to do. Being transgender means that they NEED to change thier body and not just live as an effimenate man that is just absurd! as to put it bluntly they want a vag not a penis.

And there is growing number of transgender people who are changing back to their birth gender 'oh I am bored of being a female now, I now want to be a bloke again'

Its not because they are bored lol some transgender do feel they made a genuine mistake. These people however are not transgender there is a difference. And proof of the growing number please?

You've got your beliefs and fair play, but I will no longer kow-tow to the transgender lobby. If people want to think they are female or male then fair play I will go along with it to respect their feelings and make them feel accepted,but behind closed doors I won't actually believe it.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by kazanne

I really dislike this sheman,now she disses Harry,Wonder what Harry did or said to make her say that
LAUREN HARRIES
@Crownjulez found Harry to be homeophobic when he worked with me & Pete, I understand why he wouldn't pose in a gay magazine

https://twitter.com/laurenotw

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