[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Mumbles

I think we should all just agree he's Plastic Geordie and move on. I agree, it's not a massive deception and not an uncommon one for people from Durham, but it's a deception of sorts but no worse than Alex not fessing up to being a Sand Dancer. It's a question of how cynical a move it was on each of their parts though. Were they saying they were Geordies in order to try and attract votes from the barcode sheep from Newcstle? Possibly. Didn't work though, so doesn't really matter either.

I have never heard that term about geordies. I do however, know a Plastic Paddy

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I am a Mackem to people up here...as they know where Durham is, and Ouston is a part of County Durham.

But when elsewhere, I usually just say Geordie, as its much easier...plus I lived in Newcastle for like 6 years...and spend more time there than here now. If you say Durham...9 times out of 10 people say 'where?' and you end up saying near Newcastle anyway, easier to just skip that part of the convo

I'm a Mackem too, living down south. and regardless of who I speak to, if they ask then I'll tell them I'm a Mackem. I'd never say Geordie, ever. Quite often the opening question on hearing my accent is "Geordie or Mackem" so people do know the difference outside of the North East, and if they don't then how long does it take to explain where Durham is - "it's near Sunderland". A lot of people have heard of Durham anyway, it's not like it's some little village in the middle of nowhere.

[Locke.]

I am from a place 5 minutes from Liverpool but if I was asked I would say I am a scouser. No big deal.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Locke.

I am from a place 5 minutes from Liverpool but if I was asked I would say I am a scouser. No big deal.

Bit of a difference living 5 minutes away from Liverpool.....and living approx 30mins drive from Liverpool - which is the driving time between Durham and Newcastle.

Same as where I am compared to Glasgow / Edinburgh.

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Bit of a difference living 5 minutes away from Liverpool.....and living approx 30mins drive from Liverpool - which is the driving time between Durham and Newcastle.

Same as where I am compared to Glasgow / Edinburgh.

There is no difference, I am sure if I lived on the opposite side of the county I'm from then it would be a 30 minute drive, but it would still be the same county and right next to Liverpool.

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by Locke.

There is no difference, I am sure if I lived on the opposite side of the county I'm from then it would be a 30 minute drive, but it would still be the same county and right next to Liverpool.

Newcastle's not, and never has been in the same county as Durham though, unlike Sunderland which is closer to Durham than Newcastle and was part of the same county until about 30 years ago (possibly slightly longer, can't be arsed to look it up).

His choice though, he can either be a Mackem or a Plastic Geordie.

This clamoring to be a Geodie is nothing new though, even the cast of Geordie Shore weren't all Geordies. There was a girl from Sunderland, who didn't really mention that, and there was a girl from Middlesbrough who tried to claim she was a Geordie and not a Smoggy, despite the fact you have to drive through, or at least past, Sunderland to get to Newcastle from Boro.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Mumbles

Newcastle's not, and never has been in the same county as Durham though, unlike Sunderland which is closer to Durham than Newcastle and was part of the same county until about 30 years ago (possibly slightly longer, can't be arsed to look it up).

His choice though, he can either be a Mackem or a Plastic Geordie.

This clamoring to be a Geodie is nothing new though, even the cast of Geordie Shore weren't all Geordies. There was a girl from Sunderland, who didn't really mention that, and there was a girl from Middlesbrough who tried to claim she was a Geordie and not a Smoggy, despite the fact you have to drive through, or at least past, Sunderland to get to Newcastle from Boro.

Is Whickham classed as County Durham? Would have thought it was Tyne and Wear :S

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Bit of a difference living 5 minutes away from Liverpool.....and living approx 30mins drive from Liverpool - which is the driving time between Durham and Newcastle.

Same as where I am compared to Glasgow / Edinburgh.

Jay is not a 30 mins from Newcastle though.

Jay lives in Whickham, probably about 5/10 mins from Newcastle. Its on the borders of gateshead, which is just over the other side of the Tyne.

Jays MOTHER lives in Ouston, which is probably closer to about 20/30 mins away.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Jay is not a 30 mins from Newcastle though.

Jay lives in Whickham, probably about 5/10 mins from Newcastle. Its on the borders of gateshead, which is just over the other side of the Tyne.

Jays MOTHER lives in Ouston, which is probably closer to about 20/30 mins away.

Okay, fair enough. I'll accede to that point. but see my last post before this: he portrayed himself to be something he is not in respect of his lifestyle/background etc....... that's the bit that's sheer duplicity..

[fruit_cake]

I live in a city but if I didn't I'd probably just pick the nearest one and say that, it makes sense to avoid having to explain it every time

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

He comes from a leafy part of rural Durham and his mum's wealthy - despite MaMa McKray claiming on Harry's eviction that her son is a 'humble working class Geordie, hard working plumber' etc. Jay's probably posher than Aaron but not as posh as Harry (probably why Harry was chosen so he'd be the posho).

You see a "Geordie" accent hides a multitude of 'sins' (ie real class background etc)

Now I understand why he was annoyed that real Geordie Alex was in the house and hardly spoke to her for ages (she ruined his 'down to earth' Geordie USP).

Now I understand why he was able to afford a Ł50K car and a rather swanky flat, Armani T-shirts and jeans (despite claiming to be a humble plumber struggling for work).

This bit makes me laugh too.

Alex wasnt a geordie, far from it. Jay was closer to a 'real' geordie than Alex was

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This bit makes me laugh too.

Alex wasnt a geordie, far from it. Jay was closer to a 'real' geordie than Alex was

South Shields is 2 minutes away from Newcastle where as Sunderland is a little bit further away isnt it?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

South Shields is 2 minutes away from Newcastle where as Sunderland is a little bit further away isnt it?

I think you may find you are very much mistaken there.

Took me 40 mins on the metro to get to shields Takes about 20-30 mins by car as far as I am aware, though I have never counted.

And Jay isnt from Sunderland.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Oh and im from a tiny village in Wales called Pontlottyn but because no one knows where it is i say im from Cardiff. This means i am decieving people and must be punished

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Oh and im from a tiny village in Wales called Pontlottyn but because no one knows where it is i say im from Cardiff. This means i am decieving people and must be punished

Were you on the show this year -saying this? Which housemate were you because I can't recall you ?

I ask because I thought we were discussing housemates and where they live/come from/ their background.....

[Pyramid*]

Is it fair to say that as far as being regarded as a true Geordie....that the opinion is, Jay is not?

Perhaps a Plastic Geordie, but what one regards as true Geordie in the true nature and understanding of the term?

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Is it fair to say that as far as being regarded as a true Geordie....that the opinion is, Jay is not?

Perhaps a Plastic Geordie, but what one regards as true Geordie in the true nature and understanding of the term?

Jay certainly fits all the cliches of Geordies - vain, superficial, ignorant, ill-mannered, shallow, sexist, aggressive, etc. all Geordie traits if we're generalising. In the name of balance and fairness though, there's a few less negative cliched Geordie traits too that he fits the stereotype for I suppose - party animal, has a way with the ladies, etc.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Is it fair to say that as far as being regarded as a true Geordie....that the opinion is, Jay is not?

Perhaps a Plastic Geordie, but what one regards as true Geordie in the true nature and understanding of the term?

No. Depends where he was born and grew up. Which we dont know.

On the 'where you were born thing' I wouldnt say that matters as much as where you spent the majority of your childhood. I mean, my Gav was born in Manchester, but literally when he was about a week old his mother moved to newcastle. So he classes himself as a geordie. Whether this is right or wrong I dont know, but it seems a bit daft to consider yourself from manchester just because you were born in a hospital there

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No. Depends where he was born and grew up. Which we dont know.

On the 'where you were born thing' I wouldnt say that matters as much as where you spent the majority of your childhood. I mean, my Gav was born in Manchester, but literally when he was about a week old his mother moved to newcastle. So he classes himself as a geordie. Whether this is right or wrong I dont know, but it seems a bit daft to consider yourself from manchester just because you were born in a hospital there

I was born in a hospital outwith where I live, I don't say I come from where that hospital is: that's daft, I agree....!! If we are going down that line, the joke is;

"So where d'you come from"
"My mother"




I thought we have agreed that he has been deceptive in respect of his 'have nowt' background - and has been very economical with the truth, and has used his 'ah just a normal Geordie' type - to reinforce his not so humble background/lifestyle - which is in essence, is the heart of the matter.

[BBfan6418]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Is it fair to say that as far as being regarded as a true Geordie....that the opinion is, Jay is not?

Perhaps a Plastic Geordie, but what one regards as true Geordie in the true nature and understanding of the term?

Probably more fair to say no one knows what he is. The guy is 27 years old. How do you know he didn't live in newcastle for 20 years? Most of you are speculating what he is by where he lives now.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Were you on the show this year -saying this? Which housemate were you because I can't recall you ?

I ask because I thought we were discussing housemates and where they live/come from/ their background.....

Erm im saying that im not from cardiff but say i am as its the closest place to where im from that people will know of and i lived there for 4 years.

This is in relation to the thread as im backing up Jay calling himself Geordie even though he does live outside there but has lived in Newcastle.

Stop nit picking.

And you talked about yourself being from near Glasgow so you're doing the same thing.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Oh and im from a tiny village in Wales called Pontlottyn but because no one knows where it is i say im from Cardiff. This means i am decieving people and must be punished

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Were you on the show this year -saying this? Which housemate were you because I can't recall you ?

I ask because I thought we were discussing housemates and where they live/come from/ their background.....

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Erm im saying that im not from cardiff but say i am as its the closest place to where im from that people will know of and i lived there for 4 years.

This is in relation to the thread as im backing up Jay calling himself Geordie even though he does live outside there but has lived in Newcastle.

Stop nit picking.

And you talked about yourself being from near Glasgow so you're doing the same thing.

Please see the run of replies above. This is about Jay and whether HE has given deceitful information in which to persuade the public about his background/trappings.

I made it very clear in posts that this is not about fms here and how they choose to explain what they are regarded as.....as this has no bearing on JAY and in JAY making out he is something that he is not.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Please see the run of replies above. This is about Jay and whether HE has given deceitful information in which to persuade the public about his background/trappings.

I made it very clear in posts that this is not about fms here and how they choose to explain what they are regarded as.....as this has no bearing on JAY and in JAY making out he is something that he is not.

Im fully aware of this.

Im backing up Jay saying that just because he calls himself Geordie but lives outside there does not mean he is decieving fans but that he classes himself as Geordie.

I am very much on topic as you were when YOU were talking about where you are from.

Do you finally understand or shall i repeat it for the fourth time?

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Oh and im from a tiny village in Wales called Pontlottyn but because no one knows where it is i say im from Cardiff. This means i am decieving people and must be punished

How long does it take to explain what you've just written there - that you're from a village called Pontlottyn which is near Cardiff? It surely can't take more than a second more than saying you're from Cardiff.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Mumbles

How long does it take to explain what you've just written there - that you're from a village called Pontlottyn which is near Cardiff? It surely can't take more than a second more than saying you're from Cardiff.

Erm no actually because people are allways like "what, where?, how do you spell that? is that near Cardiff?"

So its easier for me to say im from Cardiff or Merthyr which are places most people have heard of and not that far from where i lived when i was younger but have lived in all 3 places.