[Tom4784]

Silly woman.

I do agree that Jury Duty shouldn't be compulsory though, why put someone's future in the hands of a person so irresponsible?

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Silly woman.

I do agree that Jury Duty shouldn't be compulsory though, why put someone's future in the hands of a person so irresponsible?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15763388

The concept of civic duty has been used by those in favour of creating a written constitution for the UK - the argument being that if you know what's expected of you by society, you're more likely to do it.

Nick Cowan, from the think tank Civitas, says for him, jury duty is key - not least because it requires a much greater time commitment from the citizen than simply ticking a box on a polling form.

"It's terribly important because it's one of the backstops against a justice system that might otherwise go out of control.

"It's not that jurors are delivering any expertise. In fact, it's because they're disinterested - they have no personal affiliation with the judge, the lawyers, the defendant or the police - that they're so important.

"Jurors are outside observers present to see justice being done and to call a halt to it if it doesn't work. If everyone started welching out of jury duty, you'd end up with juries that were dangerously unrepresentative.

Alison Park, who is research director at the National Centre for Social Research, says there's been a long term decline in the proportion of people who think it's their civic duty to take part in elections.

"If you divide the population into age groups, sense of civic duty is much stronger in older generations.

"Historically, people's sense has tended to get stronger as they've got older, but I just can't see that happening with today's younger generations.

"There's something about the lessons that young people are being taught, not just in school but more generally, about politics and the worth of politics. They are entering the electorate not being that interested or engaged, and without a sense of responsibility to vote."

Alison agrees that the experience of wartime - either personal, or close, from a parent - may be one factor behind it. The idea that those who have seen their political freedoms threatened view them as more valuable than those who haven't.

"You could also argue that politics now is more complicated. The world is so intertwined now, what a government can actually do is quite constrained, so you could argue that perhaps young people are more aware of the weaknesses of government.

"Whatever the reason, the difference between generations is indisputable and unless something very unexpected happens, young people are never going to discover the sense of civic duty that their grandparents have."

Sound words from Nick and Alison .....

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15763388





Sound words from Nick and Alison .....

You still can't force somebody to do something that they don't want to do, we're not Burma.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

You still can't force somebody to do something that they don't want to do, we're not Burma.

I'm forced to pay taxes, some of which are used to keep repeat paedophiles alive which I don't want my money being used on. I object to that but have no say in the matter. I don't live in Burma.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

You still can't force somebody to do something that they don't want to do, we're not Burma.

In the UK, the role of the citizen is not well-defined within the law, but one thing is sure - if the UK were to become involved in a large-scale conflict and conscription was re-introduced, YOU (but not me) would be one of the first to be called up to get blown to pieces on some god-forsaken stretch of foreign soil, whether you wanted to go or not .....

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Omah

In the UK, the role of the citizen is not well-defined within the law, but one thing is sure - if the UK were to become involved in a large-scale conflict and conscription was re-introduced, YOU (but not me) would be one of the first to be called up to get blown to pieces on some god-forsaken stretch of foreign soil, whether you wanted to go or not .....

But I wouldn't go, I would take the prison sentence as at least I fought for what I believe in, I will not do something that I don't want to do and I do not want to be in The Millitary.

And how anybody can defend this law is beyond me, we bang on and on about how the Middle East are not in touch with the rest of the world because of there crazy laws, yet look at what this country classes as good and reasonable laws.

Im starting to think that there's not that bigger difference between the Middle East and the UK.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I'm forced to pay taxes, some of which are used to keep repeat pedophiles alive which I don't want my money being used on.

Uncivilised and in support of totalitarian, fascist states so long as that is the case in the eyes of the law. Just wow.

I had you down as many things, but not those. I have to say for once you have surpassed yourself. Like, really.

Originally Posted by Omah

if the UK were to become involved in a large-scale conflict and conscription was re-introduced, YOU (but not me) would be one of the first to be called up to get blown to pieces on some god-forsaken stretch of foreign soil, whether you wanted to go or not .....

I'd kill myself before it ever got to the state where I'd have to partake in national service, I can assure you.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15763388







Sound words from Nick and Alison .....

I'm not going to take anyone's argument seriously if they have to hide behind other people's quotes. Come talk to me when you can think for yourself.

For the sake of the topic though I'll argue with your quotes until you have some of your own input to add.

Compulsory Jury Duty is a flawed concept and is one of the reasons why our law system has it's failings. While a juror's uninterest can be seen as a plus as it means they aren't going to take things as seriously either, someone who doesn't want to be there will just go with whatever gets them out of it quicker rather then actually taking in the facts of a case and making an educated decision and to put the fate of someone in the hands of someone so disinterested is reckless and foolish.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Compulsory Jury Duty is a flawed concept and is one of the reasons why our law system has it's failings. While a juror's uninterest can be seen as a plus as it means they aren't going to take things as seriously either, someone who doesn't want to be there will just go with whatever gets them out of it quicker rather then actually taking in the facts of a case and making an educated decision and to put the fate of someone in the hands of someone so disinterested is reckless and foolish.

Have you sat on a jury ?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Omah

Have you sat on a jury ?

Ah, being as evasive as ever I see.

[Jords]

Jack and Pyra need to have some hate-sex.

[Marsh.]

Giving them incentives? Do you mean like money?

Because wouldn't you then face similar problems. People only doing it to make a quick Ł50 or whatever and not taking the trial seriously and being uninterested.

[Kizzy]

Can you imagine a jury full of daily mail readers?....

[Marsh.]

[MTVN]

Poor Michael Vick

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Poor Michael Vick

[waterhog]

the dury is out lol