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Livia · 26-04-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

and who is to judge and decide what is appropriate? lemmie guess, people that agree with YOUR world view i guess?

The internet needs a 1st amendment. Someone at the UN needs to make that happen. God save us from Livia's fascist view of how the internet SHOULD be.

Personally, I don't want to have anything to do with it. Although, it will be someone like me I suppose, and by that I mean a qualified lawyer.

And I'd appreciate it if you would desist from referring to me as a fascist.

bbfan1991 · 26-04-2012, 12:33 PM

Vile, some people out there are just nasty but the internet has it's downsides...

MTVN · 26-04-2012, 12:29 PM

I don't think the internet should be policed, and why should we entrust our governments with that anyway, and not expect them to just use that power to their own benefit, just look at how desperate they've been to put a stop to wikileaks revealing things that the authorities didn't want the public to know, and things they won't ever get to know if the internet begins to get censored. Who guards the guards and all that

In any case I highly doubt it'd even be feasible

Redway · 26-04-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

I agree, we've all laughed at these types of jokes, and i'd dare to suggest we've also all laughed at homophobic and racist and sexist jokes too.

I don't agree with humiliating people to the point of bullying, but in general we've all laughed at inappropriate jokes, so let's not get self-righteous. we're all guilty of this kind of humor.

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Originally Posted by lostalex

and who is to judge and decide what is appropriate? lemmie guess, people that agree with YOUR world view i guess?

The internet needs a 1st amendment. Someone at the UN needs to make that happen. God save us from Livia's fascist view of how the internet SHOULD be.

Livia has been absolutely horrible to me, but i'd never say that she shouldn't have the right to say those things to me. I support free speech absolutely. If the undemocratic joke that is the EU ever get's it's hands on the internet, everyone should be scared. Thank God the internet has been mainly regulated by the US with an iron-clad free speech policy so far.

Europe(the EU) should not be allowed anywhere near this issue.

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Originally Posted by lostalex

Trying to police the internet is ridiculous. It's like a vegan going to an S&M club and then complaining because there's too much leather.

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so the internet will have to be policed by the government because the people are untrustworthy? policed by who? the government? last time i checked every government in the world is pretty un trustworthy as well. so you are gonna have an untrustworthy group of people censoring an untrustworthy group of people?" how the F does that make any kind of sense?

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Originally Posted by lostalex

umm, i wasn't here 2 weeks ago lol and why was that? do i want my government given the same rights to censorship that the mods here have?. HELL NO!!! The mods here are the PERFECT example as to why censorship should not be allowed. The mods here make huge mistakes and are totally unfair, so how are you gonna use this forum as an example?? This forum PROVES that governments should NOT
have that kind of power!

All right, so you're saying that everyone on here has laughed at a racist, homophobic or sexist joke? How do you know? How can you be so sure? As I'm sure I have mentioned to you numerous times in the past week, unless you can prove your argument with substantiation, it remains an opinion and not a fact. Personally, most people I know wouldn't even think about laughing at discriminatory jokes, but all that's my experience. Even then, even if someone did laugh at such a joke, what's that in comparison to vile jokes being created about somebody? Here, all you have done is embarass yourself. You'll freely admit to laughing at discriminatory jokes, and you think that's acceptable?

Secondly, who is anybody to have a go at a disabled person and make a mockery out of a disabled person. The owners of the sites decide, the government decides, etc, and they qiite cleary decided that those pages were bang out of order. Who are you to question authority?

Thirdly, where did Livia say that she wants the internet to be policed? No, she didn't, so don't you dare even think about lying about other members. Did you actually read her post? Did you genuinelly miss that bit or are you just lying?

The moderators aren't perfect, but they're only human. They're all doing good jobs, and it's not as if you could even get the job if you went for it, so who are you to insult the people who keep this site going? Just who do you think you are? I saw what you were like, having a go, spamming
the forum asking why you got received a warning when you obviously do know why and making a right show of yourself. Have some respect for them - it's no easy walk in the park being a moderator and somehow
they've very kindly allowed you to still post, and you think you can stad there and have a go?

I honestly don't know why all your opinions are so controversial, but l
looking at your posts it's, well, nonsense and you know you can do far better than this.

lostalex · 26-04-2012, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway

All right, so you're saying that everyone on here has laughed at a racist, homophobic or sexist joke? How do you know? How can you be so sure? As I'm sure I have mentioned to you numerous times in the past week, unless you can prove your argument with substantiation, it remains an opinion and not a fact. Personally, most people I know wouldn't even think about laughing at discriminatory jokes, but all that's my experience. Even then, even if someone did laugh at such a joke, what's that in comparison to vile jokes being created about somebody? Here, all you have done is embarass yourself. You'll freely admit to laughing at discriminatory jokes, and you think that's acceptable?

Secondly, who is anybody to have a go at a disabled person and make a mockery out of a disabled person? The owners of the sites decide, the government decides, etc, and they quite cleary decided that those pages were bang out of order. Who are you to question authority?

Thirdly, where did Livia say that she wants the internet to be policed? No, she didn't, so don't you dare even think about lying about other members. Did you actually read her post? Did you genuinelly miss that bit or are you just lying?

The moderators aren't perfect, but they're only human. They're all doing good jobs, and it's not as if you could even get the job if you went for it, so who are you to insult the people who keep this site going? Just who do you think you are? I saw what you were like, having a go, spamming
the forum asking why you got received a warning when you obviously do know why and making a right show of yourself. Have some respect for them - it's no easy walk in the park being a moderator and somehow they've very kindly allowed you to still post, and you think you can stand there and have a go?

I honestly don't know why all your opinions are so controversial, but looking at your posts it's, well, nonsense and you know you can do far better than this.

yes.

Redway · 26-04-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

yes.

Yeah, but why? I haven't, for starters. How can you be sure? What evidence do you have to prove this argument?

lostalex · 26-04-2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway

Yeah, but why? I haven't, for starters. How can you be sure? What evidence do you have to prove this argument?

I never claimed i had evidence. When i make a comment on this forum i'm not submitting a scientific paper, i'm just saying what i think.

Feel free to disagree.

hennessy · 26-04-2012, 12:29 PM

lostalex I was going to say the same!!!
I like the way the internet is, I don't want the internet policed because it may hurt the feelings of the few.
Protect yourselves and not others that don't want it

Livia · 26-04-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't think the internet should be policed, and why should we entrust our governments with that anyway, and not expect them to just use that power to their own benefit, just look at how desperate they've been to put a stop to wikileaks revealing things that the authorities didn't want the public to know, and things they won't ever get to know if the internet begins to get censored. Who guards the guards and all that

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Originally Posted by hennessy

lostalex I was going to say the same!!!
I like the way the internet is, I don't want the internet policed because it may hurt the feelings of the few.
Protect yourselves and not others that don't want it

I never said I wanted the Internet policed. It is inevitable that it will have to be though, because people are untrustworthy generally and if there isn't some kind of control there will be chaos and lawnessness.

lostalex · 26-04-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

I never said I wanted the Internet policed. It is inevitable that it will have to be though, because people are untrustworthy generally and if there isn't some kind of control there will be chaos and lawnessness.

so the internet will have to be policed by the government because the people are untrustworthy? policed by who? the government? last time i checked every government in the world is pretty un trustworthy as well. so you are gonna have an untrustworthy group of people censoring an untrustworthy group of people?" how the F does that make any kind of sense?

Livia · 26-04-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

so the internet will have to be policed by the government because the people are untrustworthy? policed by who? the government? last time i checked every government in the world is pretty un trustworthy as well. so you are gonna have an untrustworthy group of people censoring an untrustworthy group of people?" how the F does that make any kind of sense?

Why would you think that the government would be involved?

Like I said previously... we're on a moderated forum right now. And yet... here you are.

lostalex · 26-04-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Why would you think that the government would be involved?

Like I said previously... we're on a moderated forum right now. And yet... here you are.

umm, i wasn't here 2 weeks ago lol and why was that? do i want my government given the same rights to censorship that the mods here have?. HELL NO!!! The mods here are the PERFECT example as to why censorship should not be allowed. The mods here make huge mistakes and are totally unfair, so how are you gonna use this forum as an example?? This forum PROVES that governments should NOT have that kind of power!

Kazanne · 26-04-2012, 12:41 PM

To be honest I have seen and heard far more uglier 'normal' people than this girl,I do hope people who find this sort of thing acceptable get their comuppance one day.

lostalex · 26-04-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kazanne

To be honest I have seen and heard far more uglier 'normal' people than this girl,I do hope people who find this sort of thing acceptable get their comuppance one day.

everyone gets their "comuppance" eventually, you included. you ain't innocent, buddy.

hennessy · 26-04-2012, 12:41 PM

I took umbrage at this
"Eventually, it will have to be policed in some way because some people are twisted and not to be trusted. As a consequence of the actions of a few, everyone will have to suffer their liberties being infringed and lose the total freedom they now enjoy, for the greater good. Because some people are ar5eholes and cannot be trusted to act like a reasonable human. It's just the way it is."

What greater good?
How is having our liberties stripped from us make the greater good?

Livia · 26-04-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hennessy

I took umbrage at this
"Eventually, it will have to be policed in some way because some people are twisted and not to be trusted. As a consequence of the actions of a few, everyone will have to suffer their liberties being infringed and lose the total freedom they now enjoy, for the greater good. Because some people are ar5eholes and cannot be trusted to act like a reasonable human. It's just the way it is."

What greater good?
How is having our liberties stripped from us make the greater good?

Having your liberties stripped from you? What are you doing on the Internet that you couldn't do if it was more regulated? Some parts of the Internet are already successfully regulated. I mean, here you are on a moderated forum. Do you feel your liberties are being inpinged by the mods here, or do you think that they just keep the dullards at bay? If Facebook was moderated in a similar way to this forum, they wouldn't have so much trouble on their hands all the time.