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Old 09-05-2012, 10:23 PM #26
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That was a dramatic turn around in the poll

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Sorry bollo I don't believe the royal wedding brought any unity to the UK...At all.
And if you guage your commitment to the monarchy by the number of holidays per year, my guess is they are not so much sovereignty more novelty.
But it seems to be a theme, maybe those further south feel more 'connected' to the ideal of royalty?...
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Each to their own Kizzy...I guess I'm just going by the amount of people I know that got together to watch it /celebrate it with family and friends and got all nostalgic..and no I don't have a massive commitment really to them... just a lot of things they helped create I have got enjoyment out of in the past...art exhibits, museums, castles, chelsea flower show...heck even the D of E! Not sure about the Southern thing though..I have family and friends that aren't from the South that don't mind having them around...I guess I'd rather they were around than not...but I understand why people don't like them
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I might mean something to English people but not sure about Britain as a whole.
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It says a lot about how much people cared about the royal wedding when the most-talked-about subject was Pippa Middleton's arse.

I just don't see the need for them. There's nothing admirable about a bunch of out-of-touch privileged racists in some fancy buildings. And before anyone claims the amount of charity work they do - so do volunteers in Oxfam, but you don't see those getting diplomatic trips to the Caribbean.
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The Royal wedding pulled a lot of the UK together definately Bollo, I know of students friends and family from abroad too who came over just to say they were there when the wedding took place.All of my family for instance loved every minute and many of them went to London at the time to catch a glimpse of things too.
I guess I am a Royalist really,I like the continuity the Monarchy represents in an ever changing World, it is something that is ours and it is loved and actually respected by great numbers of people in other countries.

Of course tourism would continue if we hadn't a Monarchy but not on the same scale I believe, a great many tourists flock to Balmoral for instance,when they know the Queen is there, just hoping to catch a glimpse of her maybe going to Church, the same with all the other Royal residences, with no monarchy though, the numbers would in my view likely fall quite heavily with the knowledge none of the Royals were there now.

For me the question is, would we as a Nation want someone like President Cameron for instance as a absolute leader,I sure wouldn't.
The Monarch may have no power,but I would guess PMs do draw on her vast experience of the UK and the World on a fair few issues,not as policy but as a sounding board.

Parliament wll always be there but it is strengthened and complimented by the continuity the Monarch brings to things as well.

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Everything Shaun said..

Serious question, is it possible for this to actually happen anytime soon?
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I think the new wave of Royals like Will, Kate Harry etc'll make it more interesting/try get in touch more with society if that makes sense
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I really hope that is the case nathan, out of all of them I feel wills may be a positive force in the royal line. His influence could do much more for the country than a set of dusty old relics wheeled out for the 2o'clock show for the visiting public.
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Yeah this has been brought up a few times, I started a thread on it a few months back I think

A bit like MTVN said, against them in principle, but in practice I think as a result of tourism they're quite beneficial. I think we'd be a lot worse off without them. I found this which is a blog explaining 'the real cost of the royal family'. I found it quite interesting.

In an ideal world they wouldn't exist, but then in an ideal world everyone would be equal and elitism on the whole would be non-existent.
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I really hope that is the case nathan, out of all of them I feel wills may be a positive force in the royal line. His influence could do much more for the country than a set of dusty old relics wheeled out for the 2o'clock show for the visiting public.
Yeah, they seem to have bit more of a humour and have been exposed to real life situations more as opposed to alot of sheltered Royals who just live on their titles for most of their life
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I can never make my mind up on this.

I mean the radical part of me wants to abolish it and introduce a republic because, its quite backward and elitist.

But then another part of me doesn't want to end 1000s of years of tradition and cut off the Royals as a tourist attraction.
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Yeah, it's a tough one for for a former revolutionary anarchist, but nowadays I'd rather keep the monarchy who, by and large, pay for themselves, and shoot the bankers and brokers, who are just parasites .....
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It says a lot about how much people cared about the royal wedding when the most-talked-about subject was Pippa Middleton's arse.
Well ..... it WAS perfect .....
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Yeah, they seem to have bit more of a humour and have been exposed to real life situations more as opposed to alot of sheltered Royals who just live on their titles for most of their life
Deffo, he has his mothers humility. Coming from a broken home...Experiencing the death of a parent, his father marrying a horse (not SJP the other one)...It shapes a young man.
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"Nay" to that .....
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K I've changed my mind they can stay.
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It says a lot about how much people cared about the royal wedding when the most-talked-about subject was Pippa Middleton's arse.

I just don't see the need for them. There's nothing admirable about a bunch of out-of-touch privileged racists in some fancy buildings. And before anyone claims the amount of charity work they do - so do volunteers in Oxfam, but you don't see those getting diplomatic trips to the Caribbean.


I think a large percent of those who 'celebrated' the royal wedding were simply looking for an excuse to get pissed tbh. They were celebrating the extra bank holiday more than anything else

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The tourest thing gets exaggerated. Just because Egypt has no more pharohs doesn't mean people don't want to visit Egypt and see the pyramids. Radio host Alex Jones will tell you that the British royalty are among the most evil people on the planet.

scrap the monarchy. This is the 21st century in case you were unaware.
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The tourest thing gets exaggerated. Just because Egypt has no more pharohs doesn't mean people don't want to visit Egypt and see the pyramids. Radio host Alex Jones will tell you that the British royalty are among the most evil people on the planet.

scrap the monarchy. This is the 21st century in case you were unaware.
Scrap the Fascist USA Presidency, which subjugates and brutalises its own (specifically non-white) people while attempting to murder what's left of the planet (whatever colour) in the pusuit of oil and profit (since the 19th century) .....
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It says a lot about how much people cared about the royal wedding when the most-talked-about subject was Pippa Middleton's arse.

I just don't see the need for them. There's nothing admirable about a bunch of out-of-touch privileged racists in some fancy buildings. And before anyone claims the amount of charity work they do - so do volunteers in Oxfam, but you don't see those getting diplomatic trips to the Caribbean.

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The tourest thing gets exaggerated. Just because Egypt has no more pharohs doesn't mean people don't want to visit Egypt and see the pyramids. Radio host Alex Jones will tell you that the British royalty are among the most evil people on the planet.

scrap the monarchy. This is the 21st century in case you were unaware.

No they will not.


Maybe Down Under they can do that
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Nope, they should stay: for all the reasons given on the thread that Jack mentioned earlier: many of which have been mentioned on this thread also.
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26 Million people Alone here watched the Royal Wedding which is more then the Population of Ireland, Scotland and Wales put together and then some, so yeah people still care about the Royal Family, and i don't know how anyone can judge the wedding being taking seriously by some Gif being spread on the internet.. it's the internet.. 1) Everything is a Joke on the internet 2) Most people who would watch the Royal Wedding wouldn't even know what a Gif is
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It's really not my place to say what's best for the UK.

But i would not be happy having a monarchy in my country.
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