[Ellen]

Classy women who dont shout, rant or rave can still be manipulators, they just hide it better.

[Jords]

So how is Deana being manipulative?

Shes been picked on since shes entered and been up for eviction twice............................................. .. deary me.

[Mesene]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Classy women who dont shout, rant or rave can still be manipulators, they just hide it better.

Yes, yes all women are manipulators.

Either they're skanks like Ash, bullies like Shiv, prick teases like Lauren or classy manipulators like Deana and Sara.

Sounds like something Conor would say!!

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Mesene

Yes, yes all women are manipulators.

Either they're skanks like Ash, bullies like Shiv, prick teases like Lauren or classy manipulators like Deana and Sara.

Sounds like something Conor would say!!

Considering his noms have all be women probably true! heck is gf is probably a man in good drag.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Mesene

Yes, yes all women are manipulators.

Either they're skanks like Ash, bullies like Shiv, prick teases like Lauren or classy manipulators like Deana and Sara.

Sounds like something Conor would say!!

4 posts and allready you are bursting a blood vessel. Take a happy pill and cool down. Its a game and this is a place for us to discuss that game, it isnt Irac. Deana is a manipulative player who uses passive aggression to overcome her targets and her gameplan is working. Please dont cherry pick my posts and ask me to explain parts of them, it gets tediously boring. Offer reasons why I am wrong and I will respond. By the way welcome to the forum. I am sure your comments will make it all the livelier.

[wendywillow]

deana deserves credit for not cracking up at the "check yourself wreck yourself line" did shiev teleport from 1992?

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by wendywillow

deana deserves credit for not cracking up at the "check yourself wreck yourself line" did shiev teleport from 1992?

[Patricia4]

Deana is a just the same has the rest of them and she is such a sad person if nothing goes her way your right sampvt its a game and we all have our favorites.

[Mesene]

Originally Posted by sampvt

4 posts and allready you are bursting a blood vessel. Take a happy pill and cool down. Its a game and this is a place for us to discuss that game, it isnt Irac. Deana is a manipulative player who uses passive aggression to overcome her targets and her gameplan is working. Please dont cherry pick my posts and ask me to explain parts of them, it gets tediously boring. Offer reasons why I am wrong and I will respond. By the way welcome to the forum. I am sure your comments will make it all the livelier.

bursting a blood vessel? take a happy pill? cool down? It's a game? It isn't Irac (wherever that is).

you seem quite wound up, everything ok?

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Mesene

bursting a blood vessel? take a happy pill? cool down? It's a game? It isn't Irac (wherever that is).

you seem quite wound up, everything ok?

Couldnt be better actually. Hope you are in the pink too. Whos your fav.

[Mesene]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Couldnt be better actually. Hope you are in the pink too. Whos your fav.

I dont really have a favourite. I dont really care who wins as long as it's not Conor or Caroline

[robb]

[QUOTE=Donovan81996;5291665]Pretty sure Shievonne started that argument with "yeah, but it's true though," but whatever floats your boats.[/QUOTE

Odd thing is.....isn't that shievonne and sara hugging deana straight after being saved?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by sampvt

4 posts and allready you are bursting a blood vessel. Take a happy pill and cool down. Its a game and this is a place for us to discuss that game, it isnt Irac. Deana is a manipulative player who uses passive aggression to overcome her targets and her gameplan is working. Please dont cherry pick my posts and ask me to explain parts of them, it gets tediously boring. Offer reasons why I am wrong and I will respond. By the way welcome to the forum. I am sure your comments will make it all the livelier.

Finally someone who isn't fooled by Deana sly and manipulative ways! I thought i was the only one to notice her gameplan!

[optimisticcynic]

SamPVT,
I'm beginning to suspect that your posts do not represent your view but are planted to provoke response. You switch between articulate though provocative discourse in the beginning which encourages reply to balance opinion, and then outright vitriol when the embers of debate are dying just to keep the outrage going. Is this aimed at mustering support for the individual you are seemingly attacking or are you, like most of us on here, just bored? Who in their right mind blames a victim for cleverly masterminding their ordeal? I'd hate for you to be on the jury of a rape case if this thread is genuine.

[Mesene]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

hate for you to be on the jury of a rape case if this thread is genuine.

Im sure if the rapist apologised to the authorities (not rhe victim) but carried on intimidating the victim then quite a few people on here wud think that was fine.

[jyunga]

Shievonne is the manipulative one. The task targeted to scare her from going in the DR clearly showed how she uses her 'mother' role to get in everyone's favor. Notice how she turned Deana questioning of her not talking to her in days into how the other people are talking behind Deana's back and how Shievonne's always been their for her.

[Roy Mars III]

you're giving her too much credit

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

She is milking the 'victim' role. Her accusations are coming from nothing.... I hope it backfires on her. She has friends in that house but she warms to no-one....she is cold and calculating and would back stab anyone at the first opportunity if it suited her.

I kinda get that impression of her too, I quite like her, but I don't trust if I'm honest, & I think she would backstab anyone to get her hands on the prize.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

SamPVT,
I'm beginning to suspect that your posts do not represent your view but are planted to provoke response. You switch between articulate though provocative discourse in the beginning which encourages reply to balance opinion, and then outright vitriol when the embers of debate are dying just to keep the outrage going. Is this aimed at mustering support for the individual you are seemingly attacking or are you, like most of us on here, just bored? Who in their right mind blames a victim for cleverly masterminding their ordeal? I'd hate for you to be on the jury of a rape case if this thread is genuine.

Cant say I really understand the point behind your post. I start posts which are in general used and bring up valid points. I champion honest people and hate people that cry foul at every corner. I didnt think I was nasty, just sometimes a little pointed but I never get nasty or stir stuff. I guess being the age I am and living life with old school views makes me a little outdated at times (in the eyes of those that havent yet lived) but in general I am not that conflictive if boundaries and rules are observed.

[rinkydinkpanther]

deana will soon fall down as her gameplan depends on her picking on the mentally weaker ones....when she crosses with a mentally stronger person who can remember all the back stabbing and carrying tales she has done for weeks, then she will be toast....id suggest adam , luke a, caroline, maybe even luke s or sara could tear her down if she ever goes after them....imagine the scenario, if she hears one of them criticize her or nominate her, she will be demanding to know why....when shiv told her she was getting too much sympathy, deana went nuts,,,shes not sweet and nice at all....her gameplan is too narrow, it all hinges on weak targets and getting self pity....that may not be enough to win big brother anymore....i hope it isnt

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther

deana will soon fall down as her gameplan depends on her picking on the mentally weaker ones....when she crosses with a mentally stronger person who can remember all the back stabbing and carrying tales she has done for weeks, then she will be toast....id suggest adam , luke a, caroline, maybe even luke s or sara could tear her down if she ever goes after them....imagine the scenario, if she hears one of them criticize her or nominate her, she will be demanding to know why....when shiv told her she was getting too much sympathy, deana went nuts,,,shes not sweet and nice at all....her gameplan is too narrow, it all hinges on weak targets and getting self pity....that may not be enough to win big brother anymore....i hope it isnt

Words of wisdom, I think she is also picking her battles well. Everyone goes on about her and Conor but to date she hasnt engaged in an argument with him. All she does is call him a bully then run away. she came up against luke s regarding him and ash and she backed off when Luke stood his ground. I cant wait for her to get into the main man Adam, he will crucify her and spit the bones out easily. I can even see Sara giving her a good run for her money becasue as I have said before, Sara hasent even started her gameplan and when she does, sh.t will fly.

As Rinky says, when she runs out of easy tragets, she will fade away. The race card and victim thing, if she chooses to play them for real in the diary room, will not stick as we have seem the guts of those arguments settled already and she dosent see that yet as they happened on the outside.

[optimisticcynic]

SamPVT,
It's one thing to hate people that cry foul at every corner, but it is another to minimise the experiences of others as they do not meet your own arbitrary criteria for what should/should not be offensive. You seem to use the same yardstick in the Caroline/Adam "gorilla" dispute. There may be occasions where you are right, but these will not excuse the occasions where you are wrong as denial of trauma is at times as difficult to deal with by victims as the trauma itself.
It is presumptuous to assume that those not in agreement with you have not yet lived and a Big Brother forum is not one to compare battle scars.
I don't think you're nasty at all. I perceive you to be more of a devil's advocate and I agree that a forum needs this. I made my post as an observation, and hope I haven't discouraged you from voicing your opinion.
Big love, and as *******igh said, let's hug it out!

[coolface]

she did make a big deal out of the becky pretending to be her best friend task, like wtf was she supposed to do, give up her option for immunity just so deana didn't get offended? jesus christ

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Words of wisdom, I think she is also picking her battles well. Everyone goes on about her and Conor but to date she hasnt engaged in an argument with him. All she does is call him a bully then run away. she came up against luke s regarding him and ash and she backed off when Luke stood his ground. I cant wait for her to get into the main man Adam, he will crucify her and spit the bones out easily. I can even see Sara giving her a good run for her money becasue as I have said before, Sara hasent even started her gameplan and when she does, sh.t will fly.

As Rinky says, when she runs out of easy tragets, she will fade away. The race card and victim thing, if she chooses to play them for real in the diary room, will not stick as we have seem the guts of those arguments settled already and she dosent see that yet as they happened on the outside.

That's simply not true, she has confronted Conor, she confronted him after the Diary episode and asked him how would he know she had a split personality when he's never spoken to her or told her what his problem with her was, all she got back was "I just do"

And she won't argue with Adam because he's a nice guy who has always been nice and respectful towards her, she only ever argues with people who have something against her.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

SamPVT,
It's one thing to hate people that cry foul at every corner, but it is another to minimise the experiences of others as they do not meet your own arbitrary criteria for what should/should not be offensive. You seem to use the same yardstick in the Caroline/Adam "gorilla" dispute. There may be occasions where you are right, but these will not excuse the occasions where you are wrong as denial of trauma is at times as difficult to deal with by victims as the trauma itself.
It is presumptuous to assume that those not in agreement with you have not yet lived and a Big Brother forum is not one to compare battle scars.
I don't think you're nasty at all. I perceive you to be more of a devil's advocate and I agree that a forum needs this. I made my post as an observation, and hope I haven't discouraged you from voicing your opinion.
Big love, and as *******igh said, let's hug it out!

You actually sound really nice, you should be on our team Adam campaign, we need people like you.

Go Team Adam