[RodHull]

Originally Posted by kistar

Finding social situations difficult is the obvious one , I can't believe he would want fame or even be in a band if he had this condition.Also he would say exactly what he thought Aspergers sufferers have no filter as far as thoughts and saying it is concerned, so I am sceptical tbh.
Maybe if he sits in a puddle I might be convinced!

It would explain why he spent 90% of his famous days off his t**s on his drugs. It was probably the only way he felt comfortable in that world.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by kistar

Finding social situations difficult is the obvious one , I can't believe he would want fame or even be in a band if he had this condition.Also he would say exactly what he thought Aspergers sufferers have no filter as far as thoughts and saying it is concerned, so I am sceptical tbh.
Maybe if he sits in a puddle I might be convinced!

Abz was forced to live that very public life but shared it with 4 other guys so that probably gave him the confidence of support in social situations and he was pissed most of the time, it was just a worldwind.

He now lives on a secluded farm and doesn't socialise that often hes only doing BB to get a house.

Just because you know one person with the illness you shouldn't really imply others are faking it (which I think you may be trying to do here).

[erinp5]

5ive star Abz has revealed that his withdrawn behaviour since entering the Celebrity Big Brother house is the result of Asperger's Syndrome.


The singer was in the Diary Room when he made the admission while referring to model Sophie Anderton’s outspoken behaviour the previous night.


He said: ‘The drink’s kinda messing with people, I don’t really go out and party anymore. Sophie was telling me that I need to come out of my shell and really shine, it’s good advice, I can’t knock that.


‘But what people don’t know about me is I‘ve got this condition; it’s a kind of autism called Asbergers.’


Five star Abz admits he has Asperger Syndrome during a chat with Big Brother in the Diary Room
Opening up: 5ive star Abz admits he has Asperger Syndrome during a chat with Big Brother in the Diary Room


He added: ‘It’s a personal thing but it makes it difficult for me in certain scenarios when people want the sparkly bright Abz all the time.


‘I only found out a couple of years ago so it’s all new to me but I’m trying to make the best of it.’


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[Blue Cadillac]

My son was diagnosed Asperger's Syndrome many years ago. Asperger's people can display many signs of ritualistic behaviour and obsessions, are very much literal thinkers, and often misunderstand unspoken signals. Speaking from personal experience, my son is quite the introvert, and there's no way he'd want attention drawn to himself. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I certainly think it's highly unusual that someone with Asperger's would put themselves in such a situation whereby thousands of people are watching them on TV, not to mention the fact that they have to share a house with a bunch of strangers.

[kitten59]

Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac

My son was diagnosed Asperger's Syndrome many years ago. Asperger's people can display many signs of ritualistic behaviour and obsessions, are very much literal thinkers, and often misunderstand unspoken signals. Speaking from personal experience, my son is quite the introvert, and there's no way he'd want attention drawn to himself. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I certainly think it's highly unusual that someone with Asperger's would put themselves in such a situation whereby thousands of people are watching them on TV, not to mention the fact that they have to share a house with a bunch of strangers.

- This is the thing- there are exceptions. One example, and a famous one, is Dan Aykroyd. Yes, he of Saturday Night Live on TV and many movies.

[Kizzy]

I sometimes think that those diagnosed with OCD have Asperger's Syndrome, I was told years ago that if the autistic spectrum was a clock my son was ten past one....
After being told he was ADHD and DCD I thought feck the lot of you! He is just jake!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I love it when the TiBB Medical Professionals make threads.

This place is an education in itself sometimes.

[Jemal]

Well abz certainly doesn't detect sarcasm. There was a time he was talking to Mario and Mario was referring to how stressful this house was gonna be. Then Mario said "mate can you teach me how to meditate" in a sarcastic way and abz replied with "im no guru mate" Mario replied "no i ment because its gonna get real tough in here" then a silence broke out for the next 1 min before Danielle came.

I believe him tbfh.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac

My son was diagnosed Asperger's Syndrome many years ago. Asperger's people can display many signs of ritualistic behaviour and obsessions, are very much literal thinkers, and often misunderstand unspoken signals. Speaking from personal experience, my son is quite the introvert, and there's no way he'd want attention drawn to himself. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I certainly think it's highly unusual that someone with Asperger's would put themselves in such a situation whereby thousands of people are watching them on TV, not to mention the fact that they have to share a house with a bunch of strangers.

my gf son has aspergers yet he is able to front his own band and play a lead role in his school play..

[Kizzy]

Well exactly I guess there will be those with mild social anxiety and pragmatic difficulties, and those whose idiosyncrasies are more pronounced.

[Blue Cadillac]

Originally Posted by parmnion

my gf son has aspergers yet he is able to front his own band and play a lead role in his school play..

Granted, there are going to be exceptions, but going on national tv in front of over a million people - well, that's a bit different from being in a band and school play, I'd say.

[brucie]

there was a guy who won bb who had some sort of problem involving speech which mysteriously disappeared after he won...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac

Granted, there are going to be exceptions, but going on national tv in front of over a million people - well, that's a bit different from being in a band and school play, I'd say.

Do tell me more Dr. Cadillac.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by brucie

there was a guy who won bb who had some sort of problem involving speech which mysteriously disappeared after he won...

Who are you talking about? Pete?

[brucie]

Originally Posted by Josy

Who are you talking about? Pete?

yes, what a fake...the whole 'act' was planned including his roll down the stairs on the final night.

[Blue Cadillac]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Do tell me more Dr. Cadillac.

Well, what do you want to know, exactly? Never professed to be a doctor, by the way, just offering my opinion in relation to my personal experience.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac

Granted, there are going to be exceptions, but going on national tv in front of over a million people - well, that's a bit different from being in a band and school play, I'd say.

hmm, well yeah to an extent, but for the person with the aspergers, is it really that different?

[Blue Cadillac]

Originally Posted by parmnion

hmm, well yeah to an extent, but for the person with the aspergers, is it really that different?

I do see your point, and I guess I'll just have to reserve judgement as to whether I'm convinced Abz does have the condition (if I'm allowed to call it that on here) or not.

However, I'd put myself out there to say that those with Aspergers are generally very high functioning with often above average intelligence, and so there's every possibility the person with Aspergers WOULD know the difference between a million people and, say, a few hundred.

[Pincho Paxton]

There are different levels of Autism, and Aspergers. Some people say that Einstein, and Newton had Autism.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac

I do see your point, and I guess I'll just have to reserve judgement as to whether I'm convinced Abz does have the condition (if I'm allowed to call it that on here) or not.

However, I'd put myself out there to say that those with Aspergers are generally very high functioning with often above average intelligence, and so there's every possibility the person with Aspergers WOULD know the difference between a million people and, say, a few hundred.

yes, but the numbers isn't the point i'm discussing. The point is they are both strenious and stressful situations. I dont know if i'm correct in saying this, but id imagine that aspergers sufferers would find them both equally stressfull.

[Blue Cadillac]

Originally Posted by parmnion

yes, but the numbers isn't the point i'm discussing. The point is they are both strenious and stressful situations. I dont know if i'm correct in saying this, but id imagine that aspergers sufferers would find them both equally stressfull.

Yes, quite. You are right - both are stressful situations for an Asperger's person. However, I'd take a stab that your girlfriend's son who has Asperger's, fronts a band and plays a lead role in a play for its pure enjoyment - as opposed to Abz who has entered the Big Brother house, for, hmmmm ........the monetary element, at a guess?? Would he have done it purely for 'the experience', I wonder?

Frankly, I am questioning whether Abz needed to tell the nation that he had Asperger's in the first instance, or whether it was to gain credibility of some degree?

Anyway, regardless, I'm not disagreeing with you entirely - I'm just reserving judgement temporarily, and I could be completely wrong about him.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac

Yes, quite. You are right - both are stressful situations for an Asperger's person. However, I'd take a stab that your girlfriend's son who has Asperger's, fronts a band and plays a lead role in a play for its pure enjoyment - as opposed to Abz who has entered the Big Brother house, for, hmmmm ........the monetary element, at a guess?? Would he have done it purely for 'the experience', I wonder?

Frankly, I am questioning whether Abz needed to tell the nation that he had Asperger's in the first instance, or whether it was to gain credibility of some degree?

Anyway, regardless, I'm not disagreeing with you entirely - I'm just reserving judgement temporarily, and I could be completely wrong about him.

If he has Aspergers his decision to tell people could be down to his Aspergers. So of course he would tell people. Decisions are slightly different.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by brucie

yes, what a fake...the whole 'act' was planned including his roll down the stairs on the final night.

OK then Brucie!....Prove that the lovely lad Pete Bennett was faking his Tourettes or apologise profusely!

[G1dds]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Genuine question, and please forgive my ignorance on this, but what would be a more acceptable description?

Yeah, sleeping on it I think it was less about him saying he had a "condition" and more the way he said it ..... Like his "condition" required sympathy

In my house, my boys have aspergers - that's it. No sympathy required, just a little understanding for them. Their brains just process differently, that's it.

As I said before, I think it's just because I don't like him with his stupid false accent looking a little sad he had this "condition"

I probably haven't explained myself well on here, but I know what I mean

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by G1dds

Yeah, sleeping on it I think it was less about him saying he had a "condition" and more the way he said it ..... Like his "condition" required sympathy

In my house, my boys have aspergers - that's it. No sympathy required, just a little understanding for them. Their brains just process differently, that's it.

As I said before, I think it's just because I don't like him with his stupid false accent looking a little sad he had this "condition"

I probably haven't explained myself well on here, but I know what I mean

Yeah. I know what you mean

In his defence though: he only brought it up in relation to somebody telling him he needed to come out of himself a bit more and be a bit livelier and more involved. And, given he's only recently been diagnosed (two years I think he said?) he hasn't been brought up with the knowledge he has aspergers, and therefore the 'normality' of that. He's probably had all sorts of minor issues with interaction and social situations his whole life and only now has a name for what makes him that way. He's probably spent half his life wondering what was 'wrong'.


I got the impression he wasn't really looking for sympathy. Just a little understanding that this particular thing (coming out of himself and being more involved in the group) can be problematic, maybe takes a little longer for him.

I suspect anything he said about it would be annoying though, because of that accent