[Lister of Smeg]

Tbh id want to do the same ifvsomeone stole from one of my friends.

[Z]

Linda can't accept what her husband did because she doesn't want to. She'd rather gather up her humiliation, embarrassment and anger and aim it all at Jim for adding to the embarrassment because they're in the house together and both Frank and Brian are now dead, Jim is the only other person still alive involved in that situation. She probably hates him because he got himself involved unnecessarily and opened up the situation to other people, she'd have probably preferred if it had been dealt with privately, of course.

I can understand why Linda hates Jim but I think she needs to let go of it and really deal with why she hates Jim on her own time. She shouldn't hate Jim. She should make peace with what her husband did and move on from it, it's been nearly twenty years.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Zee

Linda can't accept what her husband did because she doesn't want to. She'd rather gather up her humiliation, embarrassment and anger and aim it all at Jim for adding to the embarrassment because they're in the house together and both Frank and Brian are now dead, Jim is the only other person still alive involved in that situation. She probably hates him because he got himself involved unnecessarily and opened up the situation to other people, she'd have probably preferred if it had been dealt with privately, of course.

I can understand why Linda hates Jim but I think she needs to let go of it and really deal with why she hates Jim on her own time. She shouldn't hate Jim. She should make peace with what her husband did and move on from it, it's been nearly twenty years.

Great post Zee

[Suze]

An insider is the same as a source I take it? So we only have word of mouth that happened unlike there being evidence of the actual theft on camera, yes?

[Northern Monkey]

I'd have knocked him out if he'd robbed off one of my mates.

[GiRTh]

If Jim vehemently pursued a prosecution while Linda is in denial that the incident was even serious then the level of her hatred for him is starting to make sense.

[Amy Jade]

I disagree with stealing obviously and I understand both sides to certain extents but the way Jim brought it up to try and upset Linda was seriously horrible and uncalled for.

[bez87]

Wow lol the guy got caught red handed and then tried to cover it up by saying he was borrowing the money and linda believes him what a joke lol, what else are you going to say when your caught red handed lol plus if he was innocent then you plead innocent.

[CaudleHalbard]

If they actually installed the cameras because money was going missing every night that is pretty serious; it is not one one-off. Linda is, one assumes, in complete denial because of the seriousness of the theft.

[sampvt]

Some people are just vindictive and live in a world of lies and deceit. Linda is doing herself no favours by acting this way, she is never going to recouperate from this. She will be back to counting coupons and cashing dhs cheques again before long.

She has lost her family and friends and soon her dignity if she isn't careful.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He died of liver failure

Is that a polite way of saying he was a chronic alcoholic?

[the truth]

he is 100% right. his name was dragged into it and he was innocent. its linda who is endlessly bringing up the past. such a sad bitter hypcrite

[the truth]

we can see thankfully how dishponest bullying and unpleasant linda is , thanks to big brother. she is a total psychological bully. this show unlike many others really exposes how some people behave 24 hours a day. bravo to big brother for at leats exposing this

[anne666]

Originally Posted by the truth

we can see thankfully how dishponest bullying and unpleasant linda is , thanks to big brother. she is a total psychological bully. this show unlike many others really exposes how some people behave 24 hours a day. bravo to big brother for at leats exposing this

Are you privy to some secret 24 hour a day live feed? We see a few edited minutes out of every 24 hours.

[Seraphim]

I'd just like to add this. If Jim was in any way as bad as Linda would like us to think, then why did she agree to be in the house with him? I witnessed a friend of mine being bullied by a boyfriend and I never spoke to him again, apart from telling him to give her the flowers he brought to me when he appeared on my doorstep the next day. I wouldn't let him in, and refused to speak to him again. If I'd agreed to be on a show then discovered he would be on it too, I'd have refused to go on, and given my explanation why. She took the job, and has spent the entire time bitching, carping, attacking and manipulating, and generally trying to make his life miserable. She has sucked the entire house into the drama and spoiled the atmosphere for everyone, including the viewers.

[Munchkins]

Yes Jim makes mistakes, but why do people act as though Linda is innocent? she has instigated the whole negative environment in the bloody house, Jim was quite happy to go in there even with their past, and start a fresh hence him being nice whilst they were being handcuffed together, but no Linda had to keep it with her, spreading rumours about him to the others, and how nasty he is, constantly sniping at him
I am never going to defend what Jim did the other did he went too far and it was awful, but its hardly surprising he finally snapped, and now Linda gets what she wants, looking like the true victim, even if Jim has the public support
If its true Jim was going to beat her husband up thats shocking, and even more testament to how hes done well in controlling his temper

[jet]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

Yes Jim makes mistakes, but why do people act as though Linda is innocent? she has instigated the whole negative environment in the bloody house, Jim was quite happy to go in there even with their past, and start a fresh hence him being nice whilst they were being handcuffed together, but no Linda had to keep it with her, spreading rumours about him to the others, and how nasty he is, constantly sniping at him
I am never going to defend what Jim did the other did he went too far and it was awful, but its hardly surprising he finally snapped, and now Linda gets what she wants, looking like the true victim, even if Jim has the public support
If its true Jim was going to beat her husband up thats shocking, and even more testament to how hes done well in controlling his temper

More people are on Jim's side on this forum than not, and the voting public are keeping him in the house. On the contrary, Linda has been blasted and called the most awful names. I'm not a fan of hers at all, but I don't like the vitriol spewed against a woman with no known awful character flaws in her past just because she dislikes Jim Davidson with a horrendous past reputation and she shows it.
Yes, she made her distaste obvious when she heard he was in the house. But people are forgetting that when she was handcuffed to him, she spoke in the diary room of how nice he was to her and how he was looking after her. That doesn't sound like a women to me who was intent on carrying out a vendetta against him.
Not long after that, the HM's were talking on the HL's show of how Jim kept butting in when Linda was chatting to the group and cutting her off in mid sentence as if she wasn't there. This was again mentioned some time later.

So none of us know if it was that or if something else happened to rile Linda up again.

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by jet

More people are on Jim's side on this forum than not, and the voting public are keeping him in the house. On the contrary, Linda has been blasted and called the most awful names. I'm not a fan of hers at all, but I don't like the vitriol spewed against a woman with no known awful character flaws in her past just because she dislikes Jim Davidson with a horrendous past reputation and she shows it.
Yes, she made her distaste obvious when she heard he was in the house. But people are forgetting than when she was handcuffed to him, she spoke in the diary room of how nice he was to her and how he was looking after her. That doesn't sound like a women to me who was intent on carrying out a vendetta against him.
Not long after that, the HM's were talking on the HL's show of how Jim kept butting in when Linda was chatting to the group and cutting her off in mid sentence as if she wasn't there. This was again mentioned some time later.

So none of us know if it was that or if something else happened to rile Linda up again.

True, but if Linda had a problem with him cutting her off all the time, then she is sufficiently assertive to turn around and call him out for it. "Jim - please let me finish my sentence." She is also capable of stating what the problem is when he asked her during her more unpleasant rants. Rather than blast off a stream of abusive spite, she could have given the details. "Earlier today, you kept interrupting me whenever I opened my mouth. I feel as if you're trying to cut me out of the conversation, and don't respect my opinions." or something similar. That he could understand and deal with.

[CaudleHalbard]

They are most certainly not employees!

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

They are most certainly not employees!

Is there a legal precedence for this yet? If not, then nothing is certain. In France, the legality is that people in reality TV shows are employees and entitled to employment rights. French reality TV show contestants therefore have to be given a number of hours when there are no cameras operating, and they are covered by the same laws as all other employees. It doesn't sound to me as the UK has any legal stance for now:

http://www.cipd.co.uk/pm/peoplemanag...s-2009-06.aspx

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Is there a legal precedence for this yet? If not, then nothing is certain. In France, the legality is that people in reality TV shows are employees

This isn't France. I have some experience with this area of the law and I am 99% certain that CBB contracts would be contacts for services rather than contracts of service.

If they are employees, BB would normally have to deduct income tax and national insurance contributions from whatever is paid to contestants. I think we can be reasonably confident that they don't!

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

This isn't France. I have some experience with this area of the law and I am 99% certain that CBB contracts would be contacts for services rather than contracts of service.

If they are employees, BB would normally have to deduct income tax and national insurance contributions from whatever is paid to contestants. I think we can be reasonably confident that they don't!

I understand how our tax & nat. ins / tax/self-esystem works. I was, however, wondering if the working conditions of reality TV participants has been established in court, via a legal precedent. I gave the example of France as a country in which this has now happened. They have a similar system to ours, but the legal precedent has been established that reality TV participants' conditions of work should be the same as any employee.

[CaudleHalbard]

Just on a factual point, has Jim ever been convicted of a crime of violence?

If not we should really use the term "allegedly" when taking about this.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Just on a factual point, has Jim ever been convicted of a crime of violence?

If not we should really use the term "allegedly" when taking about this.

No, he hasn't.

[Munchkins]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

No, he hasn't.

Even more disgusting that people try to bring up the sex allegations Jim was accused of