[GypsyGoth]

Hopefully she'll be found not guilty in the next trial (or the one after that).

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Hopefully she'll be found not guilty in the next trial (or the one after that).

[MTVN]

Will cause a bit of a diplomatic incident as well won't it, surely Italy won't be too pleased if America refuses to hand over someone their courts have found guilty of murder

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Will cause a bit of a diplomatic incident as well won't it, surely Italy won't be too pleased if America refuses to hand over someone their courts have found guilty of murder

I don't think Italy will have a leg to stand on if they try to kick up a fuss given how terribly they've handled this case.

If you can't convict someone in one trial you won't get a fair verdict in a second, either way the verdict will forever be in doubt. They've acquitted her and now she's beyond their reach. Instead of trying to save face with farcical retrials they should hold up their hands and admit their mistakes, try to learn from them and apologise deeply and sincerely to Meredith's family for a fatally flawed investigation.

[GypsyGoth]

I skimmed over an american article and they reckon an extradition request would be denied.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/30/wo...-knox-retrial/

[Nedusa]

The Italian judiciary is a disgrace and a laughing stock after this farce.

If I was Amanda Knox I would wash my Hands of the whole thing , she will never get justice there and thankfully the US authorities will never allow any extradition so she can take comfort in knowing this is over.

But it leaves many questions unanswered most importantly how such a supposed developed Country could have such a shambolic justice system.

[billy123]

It will be interesting to see if America obey the extradition laws that they have been abusing for their own ends and means for so long.

[MrWong]

Reports in Italy say Sollecito was stopped by police in an area near Udine which is close to the borders of Austria and Slovenia.

http://news.sky.com/story/1204143/ke...pped-at-border

[arista]

[Sticks]

Coming in from this thread, which got derailed

[Sticks]

UPDATE

From the Mirror Website

Italy's highest court has overturned the murder conviction against Amanda Knox and her ex-boyfriend, bringing to a definitive end the high-profile case.

The decision by the supreme Court of Cassation is the final ruling in the case, ending the long legal battle waged by Knox and co-defendant Raffaele Sollecito.

Both Ms Knox, who was awaiting the verdict in her US hometown of Seattle, and Mr Sollecito have long maintained their innocence.

The supreme Court of Cassation overturned last year's convictions by a Florence appeals court, and declined to order another trial.

Also from the Mirror website

Meredith Kercher's mother 'shocked' after Italian court acquits 27-year-old alongside ex-boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito
Still shell shocked from the ruling, she told reporters: "I can't see how evidence that was once deemed evidence is now no longer thought to be evidence."
The heartbroken mother of murdered student Meredith Kercher has told of her shock after Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito were acquitted by Italy's highest court this evening.

The ruling will put a close to the dramatic saga after the pair were initially convicted.

After thoroughly examining the case, the judges concluded that the conviction could not be supported by the evidence.

Reacting to the news, Arline Kercher, from Coulsdon, Surrey, seemed numb as she said: "I am a bit surprised and shocked if I'm honest.

"I don't know what to say.


Still shell shocked from the ruling, she told reporters: "I can't see how evidence that was once deemed evidence is now no longer thought to be evidence."

The heartbroken mother of murdered student Meredith Kercher has told of her shock after Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito were acquitted by Italy's highest court this evening.

The ruling will put a close to the dramatic saga after the pair were initially convicted.

After thoroughly examining the case, the judges concluded that the conviction could not be supported by the evidence.

Reacting to the news, Arline Kercher, from Coulsdon, Surrey, seemed numb as she said: "I am a bit surprised and shocked if I'm honest.

"I don't know what to say.

PA Meredith Kercher and her mother Arline celebrating Arline's birthday
Happier times: Meredith Kercher and her mother Arline

"I can't see how evidence that was once deemed evidence is now no longer thought to be evidence.

"I am still shocked."

Talking about the Italian legal system she said: "It is a long drawn out process."

She then added: "If you write anything, never forget Meredith."

Meredith's father John declined to comment this evening.

So my questions are

• As Meredith was a UK citizens, can we get our police force to pursue Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito with a criminal prosecution. I hear that if a Brit kills a Brit abroad, they can still be charged with murder here in the UK
• Can the Kercher family now bring a civil suite against Amanda in the US, the threshold for a civil suite is lower

[Nedusa]

No.... They have been cleared

Get over it......

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

No.... They have been cleared

Get over it......

Dealing with my second point, I cite as precedence the O J Simpson case. He was acquitted of murder, but then the victim's family successfully went after him with a wrongful death civil suit.

My first point is a "Can they do that"

The relatives of Meredith Kercher (Remember her?) still believe Amanda is guilty as sin, and I suspect someone with those ranks will still try and pursue this, now that the Italian judicial process has come to an end.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Dealing with my second point, I cite as precedence the O J Simpson case. He was acquitted of murder, but then the victim's family successfully went after him with a wrongful death civil suit.

My first point is a "Can they do that"

The relatives of Meredith Kercher (Remember her?) still believe Amanda is guilty as sin, and I suspect someone with those ranks will still try and pursue this, now that the Italian judicial process has come to an end.

Oh for God's sake.... She has been acquitted twice

It is all over.... Please move on this story is a story no more.

Time to move on.

[jennyjuniper]

There is enough doubt for me to not be able to say for sure if Amanda Knox is guilty or not. But the thing that left me feeling very uneasy was the fact that hours after the murder Amanda and her boyfriend were seen laughing and joking.
Not enough to label someone as guilty I know, but still.....?

[kirklancaster]

"She is HOT"?????

She is a cold, seriously terrifying, deeply disturbed psychopath.

Just someone else who has 'got away with murder'.

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

There is enough doubt for me to not be able to say for sure if Amanda Knox is guilty or not. But the thing that left me feeling very uneasy was the fact that hours after the murder Amanda and her boyfriend were seen laughing and joking.
Not enough to label someone as guilty I know, but still.....?

Grief and shock can effect people in different ways, plus there is the phenomenon of "distraction activities" where in shock you do things that may seem inappropriate. You can not use that alone to infer guilt.


One thing that I did find odd, re the prosecution, is that they changed their reasons why Amanda and Raphael killed her, from sex game gone wrong to an argument about cleaning.

The Italian Judicial system allows for the challenging of successful appeals. If their case was rock solid, why change the motive? What were they playing at? Is it a case of determining to get a conviction at all costs rather than following the evidence? It is usually the defence that changes their story, not the prosecution.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

There is enough doubt for me to not be able to say for sure if Amanda Knox is guilty or not. But the thing that left me feeling very uneasy was the fact that hours after the murder Amanda and her boyfriend were seen laughing and joking.
Not enough to label someone as guilty I know, but still.....?

but still what? you've never laughed or had the giggles at an inappropriate time? you've never found levity in a stressful situation? you want her to fall on the floor and self flagellate herself? get a grip.

[MTVN]

Guilty as hell, sad day for Meredith's family

[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Guilty as hell, sad day for Meredith's family

I have to agree, I've read up on this case extensively, and knox contradicts herself repeatedly. There WERE more people involved than Rudy Guede. The evidence of a break-in shows a completely inconsistent glass pattern.

At this level it has to be political, the amount of money to be spent and the damage to international relations in trying to extradite Knox.

I just feel so sorry for the Kerchers, I don't think they will ever find out what happened to Meredith, and I hope it eats at those responsible every single second of every single day. May they never sleep peacefully.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Guilty as hell, sad day for Meredith's family

.


Whole thing has been a mess though. Feel for her family.

[Sticks]

For reference how the BBC website is reporting this

[Vicky.]

What a ****ing farce this has all been.

[Livia]

I'm confident Knox is guilty. The evidence at the apartment alone would be enough for me to believe beyond reasonable doubt that she's as guilty as sin.

[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm confident Knox is guilty. The evidence at the apartment alone would be enough for me to believe beyond reasonable doubt that she's as guilty as sin.

She was there, she knows what happened, and yes, I would go so far as to agree with you that she had a part in Meredith's murder, probably go further in that I believe she instigated it. I feel devastated for the Kerchers.

When the reasoning is published, which I eagerly await, I think it will all hinge on the possible contamination of DNA evidence...nothing whatsoever to do with Knox's sh*tty alibi, the contradictions, and the overwhelming evidence that the break in was staged.

If I'm angry with the Italian system for anything, it's for not securing the evidence sooner.

Knox and Sollecito can burn in Hell.