[Kate!]

I don't like it being used, at all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

When I was little we all used the D word and it was fine.

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I do think aswell, that it could confuse kids, and make them more likely to say it if that makes sense. So the word will never 'disappear'

2 black kids in a playground calling each other *****. White kid then thinks its ok to call them that as they call each other it (kinda like mate..). Shit hits the fan. Kinda thing.

So a couple of white kids get confused in the playground? So what? Any teacher/parent in that situation would see it is a great learning opportunity.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its a strong sound that, but the singers are bad boys for stinking up that song with the N word. Take that song out of your collection Arista

10 points off Slitherin

Its Great from Chicago 1975

Super Whitties
Super N..........


Its Bliss


10 Outta 10

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

So a couple of white kids get confused in the playground? So what? Any teacher/parent in that situation would see it is a great learning opportunity.

The problem there is, they would be punished for being racist, when they dont even know what they are saying is wrong?

Kids dont have as much understanding of stuff like this as adults do. And explain to a 5 year old that certain people can say one word but its wrong for them to say it...cant see it sinking in tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

Its Great from Chicago 1975

Super Whitties
Super N..........


Its Bliss


10 Outta 10

No for utter bliss and no swears spin this platter

Youtube video

[Samm]

I don't mind it being used

Originally Posted by Vicky.

The problem there is, they would be punished for being racist, when they dont even know what they are saying is wrong?

I fear for the home life a child who gets to school age, and doesn't understand that word is not part of every day vocabulary.

[GiRTh]

Not this discussion again.

Jesus is talking the most sense in here. Too many of the other posters dont seem to understand the history of that word and why its so taboo.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

I fear for the home life a child who gets to school age, and doesn't understand that word is not part of every day vocabulary.

Little North could be that child, listening to his Dad singing in the shower..

[Nedusa]

It's offensive..........plain and simple no matter who uses it !!!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Not this discussion again.

Jesus is talking the most sense in here. Too many of the other posters dont seem to understand the history of that word and why its so taboo.

Which posters specifically?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

I fear for the home life a child who gets to school age, and doesn't understand that word is not part of every day vocabulary.

If they have never heard the word before (why should they?) then why would they know it was wrong if they hear it in the playground..out of curiosity?

[Brother Leon]

A White person using the word has negative connotations whether they used it in a friendly manner or not. It's not their fault, but that is history unfortunately. I personally rarely use the word, but it can't be hard to understand why black people generally have took the word back.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Which posters specifically?

It would be wrong to name names but its clear some posters dont understand the history of the word, the reasons why black people use it as a term of endearment and the reasons why its so taboo.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think everyone knows its the most offensive word you can say currently, one that can lose a job in an instant like no other and i think people get pissed off hearing black people use it, but as I said its not like Will Smith is rocking it or Obama - its the idiots only.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think everyone knows its the most offensive word you can say currently, one that can lose a job in an instant like no other and i think people get pissed off hearing black people use it, but as I said its not like Will Smith is rocking it or Obama - its the idiots only.

I dont get pissed off if black people use it at all (however that nicki minaj song that just repeats it over and over takes the piss a bit). I just really dont understand why anyone wants to use it and think some being 'allowed' to makes it more confusing for some others (mainly kids), thats all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It is worth highlighting that the biggest media launch in 2013 was GTA V - bigger than any film. GTA V is played by millions of kids, many under 13, 10, 8 and if they aint playing it then they want to and its strewn with the N word so it will be interesting to see what effect that has on the use of the word and its impact.

Originally Posted by Vicky.

If they have never heard the word before (why should they?) then why would they know it was wrong if they hear it in the playground..out of curiosity?

How do they know that swear words are wrong?

And if they have never heard it before, then like I said in my previous post, it becomes a fantastic teaching opportunity. Although how a young person could use a word he/she'd never heard before is way out of my comprehension.

The word is out there, in music, films and games, so there is a good chance of them hearing it. It's not a word that should be hidden away from society, but filled with context and discussed.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

How do they know that swear words are wrong?

And if they have never heard it before, then like I said in my previous post, it becomes a fantastic teaching opportunity. Although how a young person could use a word he/she'd never heard before is way out of my comprehension.

The word is out there, in music, films and games, so there is a good chance of them hearing it. It's not a word that should be hidden away from society, but filled with context and discussed.

As I said, hearing other black kids calling each other it...

Quite like (random word) a kids unlikely to have heard the word homie. Other kids call each other that at school, the kid picks up on it and calls others that. Bad choice as noone says that anymore as far as I am aware but just an example

I would love if people were educated about the history and stuff if they incorrectly used it. But thats not what would happen in most cases if we are honest..it would be instant cries of 'racist'...get the parents called in, they are clearly teaching the kids the wrong stuff, etc etc

Originally Posted by Vicky.

As I said, hearing other black kids calling each other it...

Quite like (random word) a kids unlikely to have heard the word homie. Other kids call each other that at school, the kid picks up on it and calls others that. Bad choice as noone says that anymore as far as I am aware but just an example

I would love if people were educated about the history and stuff if they incorrectly used it. But thats not what would happen in most cases if we are honest..it would be instant cries of 'racist'...get the parents called in, they are clearly teaching the kids the wrong stuff, etc etc

So white kid uses word he hears black kid use and gets in trouble. If he was 5, as you used in a previous example, then I doubt he'd be labelled a racist without first asking him where he'd heard that word before. If he said that, then why would he be in trouble? If he said it's what my dad calls the neighbour, then there are obvious issues there.

5 year olds aren't racist.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

So white kid uses word he hears black kid use and gets in trouble. If he was 5, as you used in a previous example, then I doubt he'd be labelled a racist without first asking him where he'd heard that word before. If he said that, then why would he be in trouble? If he said it's what my dad calls the neighbour, then there are obvious issues there.

5 year olds aren't racist.

http://www.netmums.com/coffeehouse/c...acist-all.html

[Vicky.]

Well you wouldnt think a kid would be called racist, but gavins son was dragged into the headteachers office at 6 years old and branded homophobic for calling another kid a fairy (!)..which I dont see as much different.

Was a interesting meeting once gav and his ex were dragged in, given that half her family are gay and most of Gavins friends are so the kids are surrounded by gay people very often

[Z]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

So white kid uses word he hears black kid use and gets in trouble. If he was 5, as you used in a previous example, then I doubt he'd be labelled a racist without first asking him where he'd heard that word before. If he said that, then why would he be in trouble? If he said it's what my dad calls the neighbour, then there are obvious issues there.

5 year olds aren't racist.

If you get in trouble and you don't understand why you're in trouble (as is often the case with young kids - part of growing up is learning where the boundaries are) it can go one of two ways - either you learn that what you did/said was wrong and don't do it again or you don't understand why what you did/said was wrong and you do it again to shock people, depending on the child and what was said when they got into trouble. I don't really like the idea of any five year old kids using the word regardless of their race but I've already said in this thread that the word in general makes me uncomfortable because I was taught not to use the word as it's a very loaded, offensive term.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.netmums.com/coffeehouse/c...acist-all.html

The most concerning thing about that, is you being a member of netmums