[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Z

Fantastic post Salman

lol thanks

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Salman!

there is not one woman in my ENTIRE family & extended family that wears the full on burkha, not one, and the majority are religious. It's not widespread or obligatory at all, these women really are choosing to wear it themselves. as for people babbling on about 'sexism' well there is no compulsion in Islam nor does anyone have the right to judge another, and there are different ideas of 'liberation'. you need to realise that the western way of thinking isn't the only correct one and shouldn't override other cultures and traditions. for instance these women would probably see the western style of dress as oppressive, and would express disgust at the fact that women are actually paid to take their clothes off over here. personally I don't see any style of dress as a product of sexism, it's simply down to choice. don't get why it's so hard for people to think the same way

the only legitimate argument for banning the burkha would be security or identification purposes, but only in like the workplace or something, not outside

It is a cultural issue rather than a religious one as I said in a previous post, however, I think you're being a little short-sighted... wither deliberately or defensively. The fact that it's not a religious obligation is not immediately followed by an assumption that they women are [truly] "choosing to wear it themselves". Culturally, the families in which wearing the full Burka is commonplace are run in an extremely patriarchal manner and the fact that it's not demanded by religion does not mean that it's not enforced by the family / community itself. The fact that this doesn't apply to your family does not imply that it doesn't happen in other families. It doesn't. Of course, that's not to say that there isn't oppression (and not only of women) in all sorts of families from all different faiths / non-faiths... but, neither does that fact mean that this isn't an issue. That there are women who feel that they have no choice but to wear the full Burka is a simple fact. Familial pressure / religious pressure... the reasons surely don't really matter, other than the fact that it's used (by some) to demonize the religion as a whole.

[Kizzy]

I don't feel the BNP are the right people to be asking for anyone to consider anyones 'rights' frankly.
I would leave that to those without a fascist agenda.

[Kizzy]

How very British... 'Ok, enough of that!'

How long does it take to change patriarchal culture.... How long is a piece of string?

[Kizzy]

Ok no need to start salman bashing, as this vid shows lots of places need to get their head around equality....
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...7#.UzVqf_l_uT8

[Brother Leon]

Salman is mostly right though so not sure why he's being bashed.


Salman...you are arguing with someone/People who knows very little about the topic. Why waste your time? I find a lot of the people who make these assumptions on Muslims or what the religion means haven't spent much time with Muslims at all. I can find places of inequality or prejudice or bullying from parents towards their daughter from almost any country or culture. Personally the Muslim males I know are tremendously respectful towards women and my mother adores and loves having them around as a result so the generalisation works both ways..

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Salman is mostly right though so not sure why he's being bashed.


Salman...you are arguing with someone/People who knows very little about the topic. Why waste your time? I find a lot of the people who make these assumptions on Muslims or what the religion means haven't spent much time with Muslims at all. I can find places of inequality or prejudice or bullying from parents towards their daughter from almost any country or culture. Personally the Muslim males I know are tremendously respectful towards women and my mother adores and loves having them around as a result so the generalisation works both ways..

lol

so you views are the ones we should listen too based on who you know?

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

lol

so you views are the ones we should listen too based on who you know?

Where did I say that?

I'm showing how easy it is generalise a whole religion. Keep up x

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Salman is mostly right though so not sure why he's being bashed.


Salman...you are arguing with someone/People who knows very little about the topic. Why waste your time? I find a lot of the people who make these assumptions on Muslims or what the religion means haven't spent much time with Muslims at all. I can find places of inequality or prejudice or bullying from parents towards their daughter from almost any country or culture. Personally the Muslim males I know are tremendously respectful towards women and my mother adores and loves having them around as a result so the generalisation works both ways..

What an absolute crock of s*** , Muslim men force their women to do their bidding no debate no compromise just fcuking do what we say and no backchat .

Respectful of their women are you having a laugh ?

Their misguided religious teachings give them total control over all females in their family . The females are only treated with respect if they comply 100% to every request that the male family members make.

Do not come on this forum and preach about respect...!!!

[smeagol]

burkas annoy me but at the same time i think let people do what they want. but i know in their countries there is so much we cant wear or do. so its a tricky one.

ban hoodies as well while your at it. lol

[Crimson Dynamo]

I would also ban Nuns from wearing their silly clothes

[Tom4784]

We live in a free country, if someone chooses to wear a Burkha then they can wear a Burkha. The only thing I'll say about it is that it should have the same restrictions that any other face obscuring clothes have placed upon them.

[Roy Mars III]

quote this post ten times if you love Jesus and don't care who knows

[daniel-lewis-1985]

If the person who posted this is being forced to wear one then I agree with the post 100%but if its just some "political" party trying to get attention by being ignorant then yes I disagree.

How about we ban the socks and sandals extravaganza, that is way more offensive.

[Ninastar]

kinda OT, but I think this kinda relates... not an official chart, but it's pretty accurate



i don't think people realise that what they see/hear on TV isn't the only thing that goes on...