[Ellen]

Originally Posted by kefln

Like when Jale was sitting quietly eating and Helen went off on one, accusing her of listening in. Followed up by calling Jale a slug at the top of her voice in the garden.

Got to love short term memory...

What has Jale got to do with anything? I was talking about Ashleigh,Matthew & Danielle.
They should just crack on and have fun instead of moaning.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by jet

Mark said he didn't want them to come back from the morgue and he is friends with Helen. I think he likes her and gets on with her, but just feels more relaxed when she's not around. He probably didn't realize just how she affected things until she wasn't there...

Fair enough and i can understand there will be tensions. If she makes them feel like that they know it is not going to change much, instead of going on & on about it,put it to one side and start enjoying yourself.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Ellen

What has Jale got to do with anything? I was talking about Ashleigh,Matthew & Danielle.
They should just crack on and have fun instead of moaning.

1) They were having fun. It was Helen that pointed out that its never like that when she's around.

2) You mentioned that Helen would be relaxed if others weren't there, well we've all scene how Helen relaxs, she attacks others.

3) When it comes to b*tching and moaning, there is a number one source in that house. Helen. Remove her, people relax.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Fair enough and i can understand there will be tensions. If she makes them feel like that they know it is not going to change much, instead of going on & on about it,put it to one side and start enjoying yourself.

I think Mark has no problem enjoying himself but he's fed up with all the aggro as we have seen when he lost it and stormed out of the door...lol

Ashleigh and Matthew are not naturally outgoing and carefree and don't find it as easy to let go with all the tension around. I'd say Christopher is the same and Kimberley, although she is Helen's friend (supposedly) looks really tense and uneasy most of the time.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by kefln

1) They were having fun. It was Helen that pointed out that its never like that when she's around.

2) You mentioned that Helen would be relaxed if others weren't there, well we've all scene how Helen relaxs, she attacks others.

3) When it comes to b*tching and moaning, there is a number one source in that house. Helen. Remove her, people relax.

1) They should have fun with or without her. I would not let my dislike of someone ruin my time and certainly not sit moaning all the time.

2) Helen does talk and have a laugh with other HM's not just argue.

3) They all bitch, some more than others but the main one's for days now are Ashleigh, Danielle & now Matthew, it is all they do imo.