[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by adamski94

We still not going on about Jeremy and Chloe are we? They moved on so should we

this is about ken. My money is on racist language

[ChristmasNeeve]

My apologies for going off topic

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

My apologies for going off topic

I should think so too

I do agree with you though

[Shaun]

I will plump for something vaguely xenophobic... but hey, maybe it'll be a triple-whammy.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I will plump for something vaguely xenophobic... but hey, maybe it'll be a triple-whammy.

Well, if he really wants to get kicked out he knows how Jeremy did it now ... so he could have gone for a humdinger quadruple!

[Northern Monkey]

He wanted out.Think he did it on purpose.Bit annoying,I was enjoying seeing the HM's squirm at his humour.

[rionablue]

I think its sexist something he said to one of the women I don't think he would engage racist slur again

[Northern Monkey]

Maybe Chloes other tit got an outing

[sampvt]

Chances are its got something to do with Perez. The little **** knows all the angles and knows how to create a PC scenario which would defo get him oiked.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Chances are its got something to do with Perez. The little **** knows all the angles and knows how to create a PC scenario which would defo get him oiked.

he knows how to make someone say something homophobic? Only a homophobic person would say something homophobic though

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

he knows how to make someone say something homophobic? Only a homophobic person would say something homophobic though

Well, he can't make Ken say something, but he can twist a situation to make it worse. He loudly branded Ken a homophobe the other day and we saw nothing or the sort (and I doubt C5 would have cut it).

That said, I think Ken's left because of his own mouth and inability to heed his warning, rather than the machinations of Perez.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Well, he can't make Ken say something, but he can twist a situation to make it worse. He loudly branded Ken a homophobe the other day and we saw nothing or the sort (and I doubt C5 would have cut it).

That said, I think Ken's left because of his own mouth and inability to heed his warning, rather than the machinations of Perez.

tbf though we don't know that Ken didn't say something homophobic either, we weren't shown him say the thing about cami being half a ***** or her dress or whatever either but he did say it. He's said so much racist, sexist and xenophobic things since he's been in there it wouldn't be that hard to believe that he'd also said something homophobic

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

tbf though we don't know that Ken didn't say something homophobic either, we weren't shown him say the thing about cami being half a ***** or her dress or whatever either but he did say it. He's said so much racist, sexist and xenophobic things since he's been in there it wouldn't be that hard to believe that he'd also said something homophobic

He did, but I can't remember what it was.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

tbf though we don't know that Ken didn't say something homophobic either, we weren't shown him say the thing about cami being half a ***** or her dress or whatever either but he did say it. He's said so much racist, sexist and xenophobic things since he's been in there it wouldn't be that hard to believe that he'd also said something homophobic

That's true, but Perez was more than happy to be Ken's friend, and pass on what the others were saying about him, earlier that day. That makes me suspicious of whether he ever said anything homophobic. Even if he did, Perez didn't seem to have a problem with it until they were arguing.

Daran Little, a gay former writer for Coronation Street, rejected the suggestion that Ken is homophobic.

He probably made another dodgy comment (similar to his "negro" comment to Alexander) not necessarily meant as an insult. Regardless, the way Perez just brought it up in the middle of an argument doesn't sit right with me.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

tbf though we don't know that Ken didn't say something homophobic either, we weren't shown him say the thing about cami being half a ***** or her dress or whatever either but he did say it. He's said so much racist, sexist and xenophobic things since he's been in there it wouldn't be that hard to believe that he'd also said something homophobic

..I'm pretty sure that we did see him say that, I do recall it just not exactly when it was because other housemates did look shocked when he said it..it was in the kitchen I think...

[wendywillow]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

tbf though we don't know that Ken didn't say something homophobic either, we weren't shown him say the thing about cami being half a ***** or her dress or whatever either but he did say it. He's said so much racist, sexist and xenophobic things since he's been in there it wouldn't be that hard to believe that he'd also said something homophobic

they aired the cami comment, and her reaction (the slut dress thing). I think its going to be a homophobic thing but ken is an equal opportunity offender so who knows.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

he knows how to make someone say something homophobic? Only a homophobic person would say something homophobic though

Niamh I never mentioned homophobic, I simply said pc incorrect. why do people keep harping on about homophobic comments. he could have said anything.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Niamh I never mentioned homophobic, I simply said pc incorrect. why do people keep harping on about homophobic comments. he could have said anything.

People keep "harping on" because that is the topic of the thread

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Chances are its got something to do with Perez. The little **** knows all the angles and knows how to create a PC scenario which would defo get him oiked.

Perez accused him of being homophobic the other night for no reason

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Perez accused him of being homophobic the other night for no reason

How do you know there was no reason though? We only get to see a fraction of what goes on in there. Granted I don't know for sure that he did say something but by the same logic you don't know that he didn't

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How do you know there was no reason though? We only get to see a fraction of what goes on in there. Granted I don't know for sure that he did say something but by the same logic you don't know that he didn't

My main reason for being sceptical is that, in Saturday's episode, they showed Ken's comment to Alexander, his comments about the women, Jeremy's incident with Chloe, so I don't see why they'd make an effort to cut homophobic remarks. Especially if they were still going to show Perez branding him homophobic.

Add this to actually seeing Perez being perfectly friendly, even going as far as to expose the others' comments about him, in the same episode. I'm not saying he didn't say something homophobic, but it would be a little strange considering what we did see.

I mean, I guess a comment could have been said between Perez being friendly with Ken and their big blow-up later, but I still don't get why they'd cut it and leave the "homophobic" accusation intact.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

My main reason for being sceptical is that, in Saturday's episode, they showed Ken's comment to Alexander, his comments about the women, Jeremy's incident with Chloe, so I don't see why they'd make an effort to cut homophobic remarks. Especially if they were still going to show Perez branding him homophobic.

Add this to actually seeing Perez being perfectly friendly, even going as far as to expose the others' comments about him, in the same episode. I'm not saying he didn't say something homophobic, but it would be a little strange considering what we did see.

I mean, I guess a comment could have been said between Perez being friendly with Ken and their big blow-up later, but I still don't get why they'd cut it and leave the "homophobic" accusation intact.

There was alot going on that nights HLs though what with all the Jeremy stuff as well. Anyway, i don't know obviously so its just speculation on my part

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How do you know there was no reason though? We only get to see a fraction of what goes on in there. Granted I don't know for sure that he did say something but by the same logic you don't know that he didn't

We saw them both in the room,we heard what was said

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

We saw them both in the room,we heard what was said

he could have said something before that though lol

[Jamesy]

If it's to do with Perez then Ken probably said something like **** and Perez went screaming and crying into the diary room about how homophobic and horrible it was.

The housemates have wanted him out for days anyway so Ken has probably just said something then the other housemates have taken it too personally. I bet this one is mostly down to housemates reactions rather than what has come out of Ken's mouth.