[Jack The Cat]

Good OP. Cheers

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I have seen a few people who are incapable of understanding some of the problems Alicis has including her ability to recite the alphabet.

Maybe you should have a little read of this and educate yourselves.

Where does it say Alicia HAS dyslexia,as I have read some stuff on the net and no where does it say she has it and we all know she tells porkies.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Where does it say Alicia HAS dyslexia,as I have read some stuff on the net and no where does it say she has it and we all know she tells porkies.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Douval...t.-a0151488956

But because you don't like her, that means she's lying. Right.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MB.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Douval...t.-a0151488956

But because you don't like her, that means she's lying. Right.

Don't get your knickers in a twist,just because you like her,I don't like her , but ,all I said was I couldn't find the story on it, and she has proven to lie so I am bound to be dubious,if she has it fair enough,but as Amy Jade said it's no reason to be dim.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Don't get your knickers in a twist,just because you like her,I don't like her , but ,all I said was I couldn't find the story on it, and she has proven to lie so I am bound to be dubious,if she has it fair enough,but as Amy Jade said it's no reason to be dim.

I totally agree with you Kaz:

I don’t hate Alicia Douvall, nor even dislike her, but it is my opinion that she is the most cunning, devious, fake, manipulating game-player in the house.

She attended the “top boarding school in the country” and has had the guile and intelligence to forge a career out of nothing, form and run a business, and earn great amounts of money and make herself famous, yet she continues to play the uneducated 'dim', dumb blond role.

We have only her word that she suffers from Dyslexia because the link provided only leads to an article in which Alicia is merely quoted as saying that she suffers from Dyslexia, which is like saying;

“I’m a Martian, but if you don’t believe me, here is a statement signed by me in which I state that I’m a Martian.”

She attended a Surrey boarding school which is the 'top' one in the country so can we presume that she hails from a wealthy background and from the type of family who would call in specialist doctors if their child started to display any kind of learning difficulties? I would think as much, which confuses me as to why she 'struggled' through most of her life with her affliction undiagnosed.

As an unmarried mum she went into a hostel when her business failed, and again 'struggled'. So dare I ask why her wealthy family did not rally around their daughter and support her?

If anyone has any real proof at all that she is, indeed, suffering from dyslexia, in the form of articles about her being professionally diagnosed as suffering from it, or similar, then I will apologise, but I’m afraid that my own strong opinion is that she does not suffer from dyslexia, or from slow thought processes, and that she is playing the game which she has played for a long time on reality shows.

Joey Essex has become very wealthy and very famous playing the totally dim idiot which is a huge exaggeration of his real self - a caricature if you like - but Joey has a cheeky gleam in his eye whilst doing so, and does not really expect us to swallow his act.

By contrast, Alicia, is trying so very hard to convince us to accept whichever role she is playing at the moment, which - having already played the bullied victim role - is now the bullied, 'dim' and unlearned' because of my misunderstood affliction' role.

I can't accept it, because I have witnessed many incidents in the house where she has not only displayed great mental awareness, but also a good standard of knowledge, in addition to an above average ability to rationalise, and even philosophise. All of which is in direct contradiction to some members claims on here that she is genuinely just ‘a bit slow on the uptake’, and ‘a bit behind the others due to her learning difficulties’ etc.

For example: when Alicia was seated with some others she asked; “What is 8 x 8”, then instantly reproached Katie H when she answered “64”. Now having posed the question, one can assume that Alicia knew the answer, and reproaching Katie as she did would suggest that she knew that ‘64’ was the correct answer, which support that assumption.

Now all this makes a nonsense of any claim that Alicia is dim or slow, even though she quickly tried to cover her ‘faux pas’ by quickly claiming that she “didn’t know the answer” – an act which in itself proves excellent agility of mind.

Again, when Alicia was seated with the two Katies, with Keith, Kav and Callum in close attendance, and they were discussing food, Alicia described Coke as: ‘pure man-made synthetic chemicals’ – implying a decent vocabulary and a good command of English, as well as a degree of knowledge. She went on to say to Katie H: “If you researched just what was in your bread” – which again implies learnt (acquired) knowledge, if not even that she herself had researched what ‘was in bread’. Either way, it suggests an ability to absorb, understand, and store and recall data, and contradicts any notion that there is anything wrong with her mental faculties.

During the same conversation, she even exhibited a great ability to rationalise and philosophise, and displayed very quick cognitive thought processing when Kav said; “What about people who live to be 80 odd and eat what they want to?" and she very quickly explained; “We’re a new generation so people who are 60, 70, 80, ate natural food because ....they had no choice.” And also: “We are the new generation of microwave meals, synthetic foods, and that’s why we’re all ill”.

I realise that there are many forms of Dyslexia, and that suffering from it does not automatically render someone as unintelligent, or as slow or dumb, but it is Alicia herself who claims to be dyslexic and she herself who has portrayed herself as ‘a little bit slow’ because of it.

I’m sorry but I do not buy into any of it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I totally agree with you Kaz:

I don’t hate Alicia Douvall, nor even dislike her, but it is my opinion that she is the most cunning, devious, fake, manipulating game-player in the house.

She attended the “top boarding school in the country” and has had the guile and intelligence to forge a career out of nothing, form and run a business, and earn great amounts of money and make herself famous, yet she continues to play the uneducated 'dim', dumb blond role.

We have only her word that she suffers from Dyslexia because the link provided only leads to an article in which Alicia is merely quoted as saying that she suffers from Dyslexia, which is like saying;

“I’m a Martian, but if you don’t believe me, here is a statement signed by me in which I state that I’m a Martian.”

She attended a Surrey boarding school which is the 'top' one in the country so can we presume that she hails from a wealthy background and from the type of family who would call in specialist doctors if their child started to display any kind of learning difficulties? I would think as much, which confuses me as to why she 'struggled' through most of her life with her affliction undiagnosed.

As an unmarried mum she went into a hostel when her business failed, and again 'struggled'. So dare I ask why her wealthy family did not rally around their daughter and support her?

If anyone has any real proof at all that she is, indeed, suffering from dyslexia, in the form of articles about her being professionally diagnosed as suffering from it, or similar, then I will apologise, but I’m afraid that my own strong opinion is that she does not suffer from dyslexia, or from slow thought processes, and that she is playing the game which she has played for a long time on reality shows.

Joey Essex has become very wealthy and very famous playing the totally dim idiot which is a huge exaggeration of his real self - a caricature if you like - but Joey has a cheeky gleam in his eye whilst doing so, and does not really expect us to swallow his act.

By contrast, Alicia, is trying so very hard to convince us to accept whichever role she is playing at the moment, which - having already played the bullied victim role - is now the bullied, 'dim' and unlearned' because of my misunderstood affliction' role.

I can't accept it, because I have witnessed many incidents in the house where she has not only displayed great mental awareness, but also a good standard of knowledge, in addition to an above average ability to rationalise, and even philosophise. All of which is in direct contradiction to some members claims on here that she is genuinely just ‘a bit slow on the uptake’, and ‘a bit behind the others due to her learning difficulties’ etc.


For example: when Alicia was seated with some others she asked; “What is 8 x 8”, then instantly reproached Katie H when she answered “64”. Now having posed the question, one can assume that Alicia knew the answer, and reproaching Katie as she did would suggest that she knew that ‘64’ was the correct answer, which support that assumption.

Now all this makes a nonsense of any claim that Alicia is dim or slow, even though she quickly tried to cover her ‘faux pas’ by quickly claiming that she “didn’t know the answer” – an act which in itself proves excellent agility of mind.

Again, when Alicia was seated with the two Katies, with Keith, Kav and Callum in close attendance, and they were discussing food, Alicia described Coke as: ‘pure man-made synthetic chemicals’ – implying a decent vocabulary and a good command of English, as well as a degree of knowledge. She went on to say to Katie H: “If you researched just what was in your bread” – which again implies learnt (acquired) knowledge, if not even that she herself had researched what ‘was in bread’. Either way, it suggests an ability to absorb, understand, and store and recall data, and contradicts any notion that there is anything wrong with her mental faculties.

During the same conversation, she even exhibited a great ability to rationalise and philosophise, and displayed very quick cognitive thought processing when Kav said; “What about people who live to be 80 odd and eat what they want to?" and she very quickly explained; “We’re a new generation so people who are 60, 70, 80, ate natural food because ....they had no choice.” And also: “We are the new generation of microwave meals, synthetic foods, and that’s why we’re all ill”.

I realise that there are many forms of Dyslexia, and that suffering from it does not automatically render someone as unintelligent, or as slow or dumb, but it is Alicia herself who claims to be dyslexic and she herself who has portrayed herself as ‘a little bit slow’ because of it.

I’m sorry but I do not buy into any of it.

I am giving that the Kirk 3 handclaps

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by MB.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Douval...t.-a0151488956

But because you don't like her, that means she's lying. Right.

And because you do like her you believe every word.?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by BB6

I think Luisa was spot on, during BOTS.
She said she doesn't understand why Alicia is ridiculed, as she can't afford to send her child to school, and takes her own time to help her and teach, even though she isn't exactly the most intelligent person.

She then made a spot on point about how mothers would usually just dismiss the problem and leave their children uneducated.

Or they would send them to one of the many schools that are provided free of charge?

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Where does it say Alicia HAS dyslexia,as I have read some stuff on the net and no where does it say she has it and we all know she tells porkies.

That thought had crossed my mind.

[Amy Jade]

I have dyslexia, all through high school I had to be segregated in IT because I had to have a special screen to type on I had to go sit in a different class room with people who had been chucked out of class for bad behaviour because numbers on a page or a board looked like they were dancing in my head. I am very aware of what dyslexia is and how it effects you.

I'm sorry but it does nor excuse some of the idiot things Alicia has said, she clearly told us she learned the alphabet through teaching her kids. She could have taken the time to educate herself a long time ago. Basically she's what I despise in dyslexia sufferers, she makes us look lazy. Nobodys the same obviously but seeing as she has eventually learned she most likely used being dyslexic as an excuse to be lazy. I worked very hard to get to the reading and writing level I am.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I have dyslexia, all through high school I had to be segregated in IT because I had to have a special screen to type on I had to go sit in a different class room with people who had been chucked out of class for bad behaviour because numbers on a page or a board looked like they were dancing in my head. I am very aware of what dyslexia is and how it effects you.

I'm sorry but it does nor excuse some of the idiot things Alicia has said, she clearly told us she learned the alphabet through teaching her kids. She could have taken the time to educate herself a long time ago. Basically she's what I despise in dyslexia sufferers, she makes us look lazy. Nobodys the same obviously but seeing as she has eventually learned she most likely used being dyslexic as an excuse to be lazy. I worked very hard to get to the reading and writing level I am.

You do know there are different types of dyslexia, some more severe than others so I fail to understand how you do not get annoyed at some of the things people say, even if you do hate her. I have a friend who really struggles with words and reading despite how hard they have tried.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

You do know there are different types of dyslexia, some more severe than others so I fail to understand how you do not get annoyed at some of the things people say, even i you do hate her. I have a friend who really struggles with words and reading despite how hard they have tried.

Yeah I am aware, they sent me for tests to determine how bad my dyslexia was. I got called a ****** because I had to be treated differently but because I wanted to better myself I worked hard and I still struggle but I never gave up. To this day while on this forum I have to change the back light on my phone lower or the text is less harsh. I don't mind Alicia really but she fully admitted she learned the alphabet through her child...why did it take her so long? she could have put effort in years ago.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Yeah I am aware, they sent me for tests to determine how bad my dyslexia was. I got called a ****** because I had to be treated differently but because I wanted to better myself I worked hard and I still struggle but I never gave up. To this day while on this forum I have to change the back light on my phone lower or the text is less harsh. I don't mind Alicia really but she fully admitted she learned the alphabet through her child...why did it take her so long? she could have put effort in years ago.

Maybe because she was not diagnosed when she was younger and probably tried to cover it up as she has admitted she was embarrassed by it? I cannot answer that for her, that is just my opinion.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Maybe because she was not diagnosed when she was younger and probably tried to cover it up as she has admitted she was embarrassed by it? I cannot answer that for her, that is just my opinion.

Alicia seems to be like me in the sense of not liking the pressure of the Academic subjects, you're demanded to do well on all of them yet you end up not being brilliant at any of them, my Teachers kept telling me that I was under achieving and I'm not even Dyslexic, so god knows what pressure that people with Dyslexia get bestowal on them, well done to Amy Jade for not letting the pressure get to you, but a lot of people (Dyslexic or not) cannot handle the pressure.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I have dyslexia, all through high school I had to be segregated in IT because I had to have a special screen to type on I had to go sit in a different class room with people who had been chucked out of class for bad behaviour because numbers on a page or a board looked like they were dancing in my head. I am very aware of what dyslexia is and how it effects you.

I'm sorry but it does nor excuse some of the idiot things Alicia has said, she clearly told us she learned the alphabet through teaching her kids. She could have taken the time to educate herself a long time ago. Basically she's what I despise in dyslexia sufferers, she makes us look lazy. Nobodys the same obviously but seeing as she has eventually learned she most likely used being dyslexic as an excuse to be lazy. I worked very hard to get to the reading and writing level I am.

[MTVN]

I won't get into dyslexia because I admit I'm not qualified to talk or speculate about it but I'm sorry, comments like "I'd want to die if I didn't have boobs" do just display a genuine ignorance and narcissism that is very worrying. It's like someone said on another thread her emotional immaturity is pretty staggering and a view like that can be quite damaging. I'd also be pretty concerned about her daughter's education that she seems quite set on home schooling her herself which really does not seem like adequate education. I know her daughter is only 3 right now but she seemed to be implying it was something she was going to be continuing with for a while, and she says she can't afford to send her to school when education is free to every child - even 3 year olds are eligible for free early education. The things she comes out with are just baffling in so many ways which extends beyond a learning difficulty

[Josy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I won't get into dyslexia because I admit I'm not qualified to talk or speculate about it but I'm sorry, comments like "I'd want to die if I didn't have boobs" do just display a genuine ignorance and narcissism that is very worrying. It's like someone said on another thread her emotional immaturity is pretty staggering and a view like that can be quite damaging. I'd also be pretty concerned about her daughter's education that she seems quite set on home schooling her herself which really does not seem like adequate education. I know her daughter is only 3 right now but she seemed to be implying it was something she was going to be continuing with for a while, and she says she can't afford to send her to school when education is free to every child - even 3 year olds are eligible for free early education. The things she comes out with are just baffling in so many ways which extends beyond a learning difficulty

I don't agree with the thick comments and calling her slow things like that, that said I agree with pretty much everything you have said in your post apart from the boobs comment because I think that could possibly be down to the body dysmorphia?

And the comments I have made about dyslexia in this thread and others are definitely NOT to defend everything Alicia has said and done in the house.

The comment about having to home school her daughter just did not make sense to me, how can you 'not afford' to send your child to school when schools are free and by the sounds of it the child would have a better education there?

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I have dyslexia, all through high school I had to be segregated in IT because I had to have a special screen to type on I had to go sit in a different class room with people who had been chucked out of class for bad behaviour because numbers on a page or a board looked like they were dancing in my head. I am very aware of what dyslexia is and how it effects you.

I'm sorry but it does nor excuse some of the idiot things Alicia has said, she clearly told us she learned the alphabet through teaching her kids. She could have taken the time to educate herself a long time ago. Basically she's what I despise in dyslexia sufferers, she makes us look lazy. Nobodys the same obviously but seeing as she has eventually learned she most likely used being dyslexic as an excuse to be lazy. I worked very hard to get to the reading and writing level I am.

Good post Amy Jade and well done.

[Mystic Mock]

Poor Alicia.

I'm sure that you can help teach her Benjamin.

[MB.]

Completely off-topic but Mystic Mock?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MB.

Completely off-topic but Mystic Mock?

Yes I can see into the future of how this Friday eviction will go.

1st Place - Calum Best
2nd Place - Alicia Douvall
3rd Place - Perez Hilton
4th Place - Nadia S

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I have seen a few people who are incapable of understanding some of the problems Alicis has including her ability to recite the alphabet.

Maybe you should have a little read of this and educate yourselves.

that would mean something if she had dyslexia, but she doesnt, dysmorphia, YES, dyslexia, NO

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

that would mean something if she had dyslexia, but she doesnt, dysmorphia, YES, dyslexia, NO

She does have dyslexia though

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

that would mean something if she had dyslexia, but she doesnt, dysmorphia, YES, dyslexia, NO

She has both.

Or should say had both because she is recovering from the body dysmorphia.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf how many women would really want to go through life without boobs? I think you're being harsh there MTVN.

And I feel like I've learned more since I've left School than when I was actually in School, mainly due to the Internet though.

You never really leave School though I suppose as you always learn new things/have to learn new things.