[Tom4784]

One form of slaughter is hardly better than any other. The whole stunning aspect of execution is more for our conscience than the animals, if we cared that much about their welfare then we wouldn't eat them in the first place.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

One form of slaughter is hardly better than any other. The whole stunning aspect of execution is more for our conscience than the animals, if we cared that much about their welfare then we wouldn't eat them in the first place.

This is true - and the sad part is sometimes the stunning isn't even effective. In class we watched a video of the full slaughter process for turkeys and they are stunned and are checked twice to make sure they aren't concious - some even slip through and are then boiled alive/beheaded.

[Vicky.]

I eat meat and enjoy it, and I don't plan to stop anytime soon. I don't think this means I can't find the act of making damn sure the animal feels the pain as its being killed disgusting

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I eat meat and enjoy it, and I don't plan to stop anytime soon. I don't think this means I can't find the act of making damn sure the animal feels the pain as its being killed disgusting

Well said , all my family eat meat,I cant not give it them because I don't eat it,I just wish that humans could be trusted to make sure the animals feel the least amount of pain and stress , unfortunately some degenerates seem to get a buzz from hurting and teasing them before they are slaughtered,those people are scum.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well said , all my family eat meat,I cant not give it them because I don't eat it,I just wish that humans could be trusted to make sure the animals feel the least amount of pain and stress , unfortunately some degenerates seem to get a buzz from hurting and teasing them before they are slaughtered,those people are scum.

They are indeed Kazanne.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I eat meat and enjoy it, and I don't plan to stop anytime soon. I don't think this means I can't find the act of making damn sure the animal feels the pain as its being killed disgusting

My sentiments exactly.
I also like to think my meal has had a decent life as well.free range and outdoor bred all the way if possible.



If we were all vegetarians then most of these animals would not be born, they are bred to feed us all.

[user104658]

Fastest, most painless and most efficient way to kill is to cut the carotid artery. Pure and simple. No stunning, no fancy pants arsing around, one cut, done.

Cutting the carotid artery causes an instantaneous drop in blood pressure to the brain. This knocks an animal out cold, instantly, we're talking a fraction of a second. The animal then bleeds out and the heart stops in under a minute. They never feel a thing or even see it coming if it's done right.

Stunning before a kill is actually more likely to cause distress as there is more likely to be some retained consciousness, or multiple attempts might be required if it's not done properly.

Let's take religion totally out of the equation. Forget that it's about kosher / halal, whatever. A properly executed slit throat is simply the correct way to painlessly slaughter any animal.

[Ninastar]

we should just kill humans instead tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Chaos

we should just kill humans instead tbh

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Chaos

we should just kill humans instead tbh

Yeah! Livia was just telling us all about "long pig" a few days ago.

Apparently human meat is so full of toxins that eating much of it will make you really ill, though.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah! Livia was just telling us all about "long pig" a few days ago.

Apparently human meat is so full of toxins that eating much of it will make you really ill, though.

Who was saying that humans are the closest to pork?.... hmmmmm?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Who was saying that humans are the closest to pork?.... hmmmmm?

It was Livia, she said she sometimes eats teenagers because she loves bacon but pigs aren't kosher. Something like that. That's basically what I remember from that thread anyway.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It was Livia, she said she sometimes eats teenagers because she loves bacon but pigs aren't kosher. Something like that. That's basically what I remember from that thread anyway.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...rk#post7518745


Ahem... awaits apology

[DemolitionRed]

I know an organic butcher who raises his own cattle. He told me, if beef is very red in colour, it means the animal was very fearful just before it died. Beef should be pink not red but unfortunately consumers prefer red beef.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I know an organic butcher who raises his own cattle. He told me, if beef is very red in colour, it means the animal was very fearful just before it died. Beef should be pink not red but unfortunately consumers prefer red beef.

and what is the science behind that claim?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and what is the science behind that claim?

Because if alarmed they will be in "fight or flight" mode resulting in more blood being in the muscle tissue that gets sliced n diced to make yummy yummy steak... One would assume.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Because if alarmed they will be in "fight or flight" mode resulting in more blood being in the muscle tissue that gets sliced n diced to make yummy yummy steak... One would assume.

Yes, you assume right - that is exactly the reason. A lot of butchers actually dye red meat products with cochineal or similar red colouring to make it more appealing to shoppers.

[Vicky.]

I dont think I have ever seen pink beef :S

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I dont think I have ever seen pink beef :S

A lot of butchers beef is quite pinky, supermarket beef tends to be bright red. However, I'm lead to believe that supermarkets actually often add extra red colouring to cheap meat cuts to make it look juicier / more appealing. Not sure how accurate that is though. Can't be bovered googling. (Get it? Bothered? Bovered? Bovine...? )

[DemolitionRed]

Its something to do with low levels of glycogen. That healthy unstressed animals have a naturally high glycogen content and glycogen levels are evident in the colour of the meat after slaughter, but if the animal is stressed prior or during slaughter the glycogen levels deplete making the meat a deep red in colour.

Any biologists in the house?

[DemolitionRed]

Supermarkets put carbon monoxide in their meat so it keeps its colour.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Supermarkets put carbon monoxide in their meat so it keeps its colour.

Sounds delicious...

I tried googling all about beef and stumbled across a guy comparing a massive, juicy grass fed steak to supermarket steak. He makes it sound so delicious. But I have flu and I literally can't taste anything at all... This is just depressing. What I wouldn't give to taste anything at all! This description of mouth watering organic beef is like torture.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Sounds delicious...

I tried googling all about beef and stumbled across a guy comparing a massive, juicy grass fed steak to supermarket steak. He makes it sound so delicious. But I have flu and I literally can't taste anything at all... This is just depressing. What I wouldn't give to taste anything at all! This description of mouth watering organic beef is like torture.

Hope you're feeling better soon.

[user104658]

Just realised I've come into a thread about unethical animal slaughter, and ended up craving steak.

[Northern Monkey]

Well.....I'm stunned