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View Poll Results: Did we exist before we were born?
Yes - I believe in reincarnation and thus believe we've been born many times 3 11.11%
Yes - I believe in reincarnation and thus believe we've been born many times
3 11.11%
Yes - not into reincarnation but we were alive in a different form of energy before fertilisation 1 3.70%
Yes - not into reincarnation but we were alive in a different form of energy before fertilisation
1 3.70%
Not sure/undecided/it's not something I think about 1 3.70%
Not sure/undecided/it's not something I think about
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No but I'm open to the idea 7 25.93%
No but I'm open to the idea
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No - I look at things from a purely scientific standpoint 15 55.56%
No - I look at things from a purely scientific standpoint
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Old 07-04-2015, 11:43 PM #1
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The energy inside our mothers womb fused us and our cells began multiplying, eventually our hearts matured enough to begin beating and our brains matured enough to give us senses and movement. Every object, even the most still, has potential energy, it can't be created or destroyed, but everything has some form of energy already, even if only potential. That is nothing to do with this anyway, it's a strange argument.
Before those cells are encouraged to multiply, energy has to be drawn in from outside and those fundamental elements have to be drawn in and delivered by the umbilical blood. We put the energy into the blood by eating and breathing. We are borrowing our energy from outside sources.

IMO we don't get reincarnated from one whole being to another but are made up from millions of different things, so although I don't believe in reincarnation in the truest sense of the word; we were still present before we became human forms.
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Before those cells are encouraged to multiply, energy has to be drawn in from outside and those fundamental elements have to be drawn in and delivered by the umbilical blood. We put the energy into the blood by eating and breathing. We are borrowing our energy from outside sources.

IMO we don't get reincarnated from one whole being to another but are made up from millions of different things, so although I don't believe in reincarnation in the truest sense of the word; we were still present before we became human forms.
The gamete coming from the male gets energy from the fructose surrounding it. After it fuses with the gamete from the female it is sustained by oestrogen and progesterone until the blastocyst attaches, soon after that the placenta begins forming and transferring nutrients from the mother. That should be known by most people who studied reproduction during biology classes in school.
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The gamete coming from the male gets energy from the fructose surrounding it. After it fuses with the gamete from the female it is sustained by oestrogen and progesterone until the blastocyst attaches, soon after that the placenta begins forming and transferring nutrients from the mother. That should be known by most people who studied reproduction during biology classes in school.

And fructose gages its energy from outside sources and so on and so on. That was my point but you're clearly not interested in engaging in conversation other than in a patronizing manner.

Whilst you may be cleverer than me in the biology department, your social skills are lacking.
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My god, people are allowed different opinions, even if you think you're 1000000% right. No one knows for certain... you say you're not acting all high and mighty, but you are.
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I believe we have all lived before.
Well it certainly feels like you've been around forever.
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Well it certainly feels like you've been around forever.
Oh I have, and I come back stronger every time.
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Yes I met you
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You was a hell of a lady
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It was a leap year


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Was I selling violets and you wearing a three cornered hat? I think I remember you
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So for all of you reincarnated folks, which one of ya was Hitler? Own up now, come on.

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It's not just a belief though, I know this for a fact, I know what is reality and what is fiction, I haven't mentioned anything about religion or reincarnation or whatever else it concerns, all I'm saying is that I know none of that exists, I'm not trying to offend anyone, I am just stating facts, not beliefs.
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It's not just a belief though, I know this for a fact, I know what is reality and what is fiction, I haven't mentioned anything about religion or reincarnation or whatever else it concerns, all I'm saying is that I know none of that exists, I'm not trying to offend anyone, I am just stating facts, not beliefs.
Facts have conclusive evidence.
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It's not just a belief though, I know this for a fact, I know what is reality and what is fiction, I haven't mentioned anything about religion or reincarnation or whatever else it concerns, all I'm saying is that I know none of that exists, I'm not trying to offend anyone, I am just stating facts, not beliefs.
Again though, this is only your opinion. You don't know either and neither do I. The truth is we will never find out and opinions like this are just (and i hate using this word) prejudiced. You're implying that people who believe differently to you are dumb and don't have any sense, which is just wrong.
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Again though, this is only your opinion. You don't know either and neither do I. The truth is we will never find out and opinions like this are just (and i hate using this word) prejudiced. You're implying that people who believe differently to you are dumb and don't have any sense, which is just wrong.
I haven't called anyone dumb. The idea of reincarnation was invented by humans in a time where nobody was educated and everyone died young and was scared of death, of course people believed all kinds of things to make themselves feel better back then, it's probably a nice thing to believe in. I just can't find anything rational about it in modern day society.

I am just answering the question, why am I being called out for having a strong opinion on it. I haven't actually insulted someone personally, it's like saying anyone with common sense wouldn't smoke, some may be offended but nobody is going to cry themselves to sleep.
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I am just answering the question, why am I being called out for having a strong opinion on it.
You're not. You're being called out for claiming your opinion is a fact.

There is a difference.
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You're not. You're being called out for claiming your opinion is a fact.

There is a difference.
It is fact though. Reincarnation doesn't exist and there is no actual proof of it, it just spreads through word of mouth from one generation to the next.

Our consciousness starts as soon as our brain develops enough to enable us to have one, it ends when we die, when our brain dies our consciousness dies too, there is no real evidence to dispute that.
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If you can't see how insulting you're being, then shame on you. I'm not repeating myself again and again.
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It has the same validity as the loch ness monster and nothing more
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