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kirklancaster · 29-10-2015, 02:35 PM

I wholeheartedly agree with Livia and Kaz.

There may be a small element of society who DO wear a poppy as some sort of 'Status Symbol' but that is no more a reason for the rest of us to justify NOT wearing one, than it is to disown the flag of St George because the thuggish National Front or some other sicko extremist faction has adopted it for their own nefarious purposes.

While it is always commendable to donate to our ex-servicemen's charities, in these troubled times, when our very existence as a nation is under threat - from within as well as from without - and when our own politicians are seeking to further decimate our threadbare armed forces and leave us even more defencless, and when more vitriol is levelled against our military than it is against the evil terrorists who they are risking life and limb to defend us against, it is NOW more than ever, highly essential to actually put our support for our armed service boys and girls on PUBLIC display and to 'Stand Up and Be Counted'.

Whenever the Right Wing Extremists march and protest, the intelligent among us KNOW that they are a minority and that the vast silent majority of the British are not xenophobic, racist thugs.Whenever British Muslim fanatics parade their support for ISIS on our streets, we KNOW that they are in a minority, and that the vast silent majority of British Muslims are peace-loving moderates who are proud to be British.

But how much more satisfying would it be, and how much of a kick-in-the-teeth for such extremists if that majority STOPPED being silent and SHOUTED their support for what they believed in - even if it was only by the wearing of a little emblem which silently, historically, but categorically is universally recognised.

So, I will continue to - both donate - and wear my poppy with pride.

smudgie · 29-10-2015, 01:20 PM

I wear my poppy with pride.
Not as a ruddy status symbol or whatever, but to show that I remember the people that have fought and died for this country, alongside those that survived but still suffer.
I bought the ceramic poppies as well, I also have direct debits paid into the charity twice yearly. This is my main charity as they helped my dad towards the end of his life.
Silly for Barbara to whinge in about others refusing or not wanting to wear one though, it is all down to personal choice.

Will. · 29-10-2015, 01:24 PM

Amy Jade · 29-10-2015, 02:12 PM

I have a poppy on my coat, not so people think I am amazing or caring, it's because in my mind we live as good a life as we do because so many sacrificed themselves for us - I don't judge those who do not wear one but I know people who think they're too tacky to wear, that I do judge.

JoshBB · 29-10-2015, 03:01 PM

Nobody should be forced to wear a symbol of any kind. No matter what it represents.

Livia · 29-10-2015, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB

Nobody should be forced to wear a symbol of any kind. No matter what it represents.

Weren't you wearing a white poppy last year? Didn't mind wearing that particular symbol, did you Josh.

JoshBB · 29-10-2015, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Weren't you wearing a white poppy last year? Didn't mind wearing that particular symbol, did you Josh.

I didn't wear any poppy as I never passed anyone selling them, but the point still stands that it's about choice.

MB. · 29-10-2015, 03:07 PM

Because he wasn't forced to wear it?

Livia · 29-10-2015, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MB.

Because he wasn't forced to wear it?

And who is "forced" to wear a red poppy?

No one.

Crimson Dynamo · 29-10-2015, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

And who is "forced" to wear a red poppy?

No one.

Staff on TV at the BBC are

Amy Jade · 29-10-2015, 03:11 PM

Liv I'm so sorry

Livia · 29-10-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Liv I'm so sorry

Thanks AJ... this is a not a good subject for me especially as its the anniversary this week of losing him. I apologise if I've upset anyone... I didn't mean to it's just a bad reaction to this subject.

I'll leave this thread so others can discuss it without me putting a cloud over it.

Niamh. · 29-10-2015, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Thanks AJ... this is a not a good subject for me especially as its the anniversary this week of losing him. I apologise if I've upset anyone... I didn't mean to it's just a bad reaction to this subject.

I'll leave this thread so others can discuss it without me putting a cloud over it.

MB. · 29-10-2015, 03:13 PM

(I don't see what relevance Josh wearing a white poppy (as long as he wasn't 'forcing' it upon others) has to his point as much as Barbara Windsor's abortions have no relevance to supporting our troops but that's something to agree to disagree on)

Livia · 29-10-2015, 03:20 PM

Like I said Losie, this is a bad subject for me to be involved in right now. I apologise if you were offended by my post, I am leaving this thread to allow people to discuss it without me overreacting.

the truth · 29-10-2015, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Like I said Losie, this is a bad subject for me to be involved in right now. I apologise if you were offended by my post, I am leaving this thread to allow people to discuss it without me overreacting.

My sincere condolences at this difficult time

kirklancaster · 29-10-2015, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Like I said Losie, this is a bad subject for me to be involved in right now. I apologise if you were offended by my post, I am leaving this thread to allow people to discuss it without me overreacting.

You were already gracious in apologising once Liv - I really do not believe that you should be apologising twice.

Our hearts genuinely go out to you Liv, because even the most balanced and stoic of us can be forgiven for being human at such a painful time as this.

the truth · 29-10-2015, 03:52 PM

we got rid of all the military hospitals? the US has over 500...we just give them a gold star and a badge and don't even pay them a tidy pension. we patronise the hell out of our brave soldiers but don't look after them...they cant live on false praise and poppies

user104658 · 29-10-2015, 05:57 PM

Toy Soldier: "Sod Off" If you're Barbara Windsor.

I'd wear one if they made them a bit more fablus, maybe brought back the metal pins and made the poppy leaves out of a nice red leather.

But aint nobody gon' tell TS to wear plastic. PLASTIC. Nuh-uh. Nuh-UH

Amy Jade · 29-10-2015, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Toy Soldier: "Sod Off" If you're Barbara Windsor.

I'd wear one if they made them a bit more fablus, maybe brought back the metal pins and made the poppy leaves out of a nice red leather.

But aint nobody gon' tell TS to wear plastic. PLASTIC. Nuh-uh. Nuh-UH

Wow...

user104658 · 29-10-2015, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Wow...

I know. I'm really something. Go on, take a few minutes; take it all in...

DemolitionRed · 29-10-2015, 06:38 PM

My great grandfather was killed in the battle of the Somme and my grandfather was killed in the Normandy landing.

I wear a poppy to show my respect.

kirklancaster · 29-10-2015, 07:42 PM

[QUOTE=DemolitionRed;8254752]My great grandfather was killed in the battle of the Somme and my grandfather was killed in the Normandy landing.

I wear a poppy to show my respect.[/QUOTE]

Quote = AnnieK Both my grandfathers served in the Second World War and one was a prisoner of war and the other lost 2 brothers in the fighting so I wear a poppy with pride as a mark of respect to those who have served. I don't care why people think I may be wearing it, that is their problem not mine. I don't judge anyone who doesn't wear one. What I do hate though is people who make a show of burning poppies / destroying poppy wreaths which has happened increasingly lately.

Respect to both of you.

AnnieK · 29-10-2015, 07:14 PM

Both my grandfathers served in the Second World War and one was a prisoner of war and the other lost 2 brothers in the fighting so I wear a poppy with pride as a mark of respect to those who have served. I don't care why people think I may be wearing it, that is their problem not mine. I don't judge anyone who doesn't wear one. What I do hate though is people who make a show of burning poppies / destroying poppy wreaths which has happened increasingly lately.

DemolitionRed · 29-10-2015, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Both my grandfathers served in the Second World War and one was a prisoner of war and the other lost 2 brothers in the fighting so I wear a poppy with pride as a mark of respect to those who have served. I don't care why people think I may be wearing it, that is their problem not mine. I don't judge anyone who doesn't wear one. What I do hate though is people who make a show of burning poppies / destroying poppy wreaths which has happened increasingly lately.

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