[Livia]

Originally Posted by dojo88

I respectfully disagree...

Banning someone from entering the USA for no reason whatsoever is completely cruel and unethical (especially towards children) and needs to stop. America is WAY too protective of their borders.

This is a clear breach of human rights and must stop immediately. Hearing news like this just makes me so sick in the stomach!! I wish this rubbish could stop!!!

They banned them for no reason? Do you have access to some information that no one else on here on here and no one else in the media are privy to at this moment? I'd be interested to know how you've reached the conclusion that this is a "clear breach of Human Rights" after reading the same as everyone else on here has read.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by dojo88

Yes, you're right and I think that they should be much more lenient with who can enter the USA!!

I think it is just an absolute bloody disgrace that they can ban whomever they wish to, and unfortunately that can mean INNOCENT people, that is completely wrong and unethical!! ONLY BAN THE GENUINE TERROR THREATS!!!!!
These idiots should get their act together, do their jobs properly and focus only on those who are trying to enter the country illegally, banning innocent people from entering the USA should stop because they don't realise that THEY are embarrassing not only the innocent people they ban but themselves as well.

But aren't ALL Muslims Terror threats ???

[dojo88]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

But aren't ALL Muslims Terror threats ???

No, not all of them, only those ISIS/al-Qaeda loonies. Saying that ALL muslims are terror threats is like saying that all Germans are Nazis!!!

Get a grip

[Livia]

Originally Posted by dojo88

No, not all of them, only those ISIS/al-Qaeda loonies. Saying that ALL muslims are terror threats is like saying that all Germans are Nazis!!!

Get a grip

How do you know these people aren't a threat? Because they said so? Muslims travel to the USA all the time, why were these people stopped, just on a whim? I'd wait till you have more of the story before you decide it's everyone else who needs to get a grip.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

What a ****ing disgrace that they will not be refunded.

We have not enough info to comment on the refused entry part. America is very strict with who it lets in tbh. Mind its a bit strange that they were granted visas, and then refused? Maybe told a white lie on applying for the visa

not really, we take in more people than almost any other country. I think only France has more foreign visitors per year than the US.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

not really, we take in more people than almost any other country. I think only France has more foreign visitors per year than the US.

By this I mean even for a holiday you need to be pre-cleared..not anything against it. Just that its well known that it is more paperwork and such to have a holiday in America than most other places

[kirklancaster]

I think it wise to let the full facts emerge before throwing out accusations such as 'Racist' and 'Discrimination' in outraged knee-jerk reaction.

I am not saying that this unfortunate family have done anything wrong, or that a system which allows them to get as far as they did, then stops them is not a faulty one, but only that it is folly to rant and level accusations of 'Racism' at members until the full picture emerges.

To me - and my faulty old logical mind - it is the very fact that this family in particular have been stopped out of - - presumably -- hundreds of other USA bound Muslims which suggests that maybe, just maybe, the multi-billion dollar American Security Services, and perhaps, their British counterpart, might just have some very valid reasons for this seemingly outrageous action.

Further - and I am NOT saying this is the case here - if me and my mate were about to travel from the UK to the USA to link up with US domiciled covert Jihadists to bring Christmas misery and tragedy to unsuspecting innocent civilians -- taking our children as cover is EXACTLY what I would do.

Closer to home, wily shoplifters use their little tots as cover to shoplift.

I just think - as in the 'so-called' case of the snotty city type in the CK suit ordering a dust covered builder in his work clothes to let him have his seat on the tube, some of these news items are not what they first appear.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I think it wise to let the full facts emerge before throwing out accusations such as 'Racist' and 'Discrimination' in outraged knee-jerk reaction.

I am not saying that this unfortunate family have done anything wrong, or that a system which allows them to get as far as they did, then stops them is not a faulty one, but only that it is folly to rant and level accusations of 'Racism' at members until the full picture emerges.

To me - and my faulty old logical mind - it is the very fact that this family in particular have been stopped out of - - presumably -- hundreds of other USA bound Muslims which suggests that maybe, just maybe, the multi-billion dollar American Security Services, and perhaps, their British counterpart, might just have some very valid reasons for this seemingly outrageous action.

Further - and I am NOT saying this is the case here - if me and my mate were about to travel from the UK to the USA to link up with US domiciled covert Jihadists to bring Christmas misery and tragedy to unsuspecting innocent civilians -- taking our children as cover is EXACTLY what I would do.

Closer to home, wily shoplifters use their little tots as cover to shoplift.

I just think - as in the 'so-called' case of the snotty city type in the CK suit ordering a dust covered builder in his work clothes to let him have his seat on the tube, some of these news items are not what they first appear.

great post,. seriously, how many hundreds of muslims have traveled to the US for the holidays and not been bothered at all. so the idea that the US is imposing some sort of ban on UK muslims is ridiculous.

[bots]

I find this all a bit silly tbh. Every country that requires a visa to enter their country can refuse you entry. Hundreds are refused every day, its not as if this is a one time incident, and it is certainly not just Muslims that get refused.

These cases always go through a full review process with a reason given if the decision is to deny entry, where is that information. This is a story created for sensationalism.

[arista]

He was on SkyNewsHD

And one of his kids had a Facebook page
of Radical Islam,
with he says with his address


He says its someone else.


Now I back the USA Embassy on this


Feck Me Our PM should not have anything to do with.


His Fecking address on a Facebook page

Thank you Kay Burley


And that Mother Fecking Labour MP
is Live now


Update her Kay

[Christmas Dynasnow]

they found some sh1t on them and quite rightly said go home

good for the USA

[arista]

Nedusa
Radical islam Facebook page
had there address on it.
If his Kid had nothing to do it - fine
but clear this up

Labour MP - Ignores This

[Nedusa]

To be honest America does not want or like Muslims in any shape or form terror threats or tourists it matters not , to the US they are all unwelcome to a certain degree.

Americans are very insular and believe all the crap they are fed. If any members or close friends of this family are now or have ever been on any US watch list then I'm afraid it's bye bye Holiday...........

Maybe the father(s) can sit down and explain to their children that they were stopped going on Holiday because Daddy hates the Country they were going to and everthing it stands for. Maybe the children will understand...maybe not

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

To be honest America does not want or like Muslims in any shape or form terror threats or tourists it matters not , to the US they are all unwelcome to a certain degree.

Americans are very insular and believe all the crap they are fed. If any members or close friends of this family are now or have ever been on any US watch list then I'm afraid it's bye bye Holiday...........

Maybe the father(s) can sit down and explain to their children that they were stopped going on Holiday because Daddy hates the Country they were going to and everthing it stands for. Maybe the children will understand...maybe not

This is a Islamic Facebook page of that Dads Address
with his son on it or something
Do the Math

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

To be honest America does not want or like Muslims in any shape or form terror threats or tourists it matters not , to the US they are all unwelcome to a certain degree.

Americans are very insular and believe all the crap they are fed. If any members or close friends of this family are now or have ever been on any US watch list then I'm afraid it's bye bye Holiday...........

Maybe the father(s) can sit down and explain to their children that they were stopped going on Holiday because Daddy hates the Country they were going to and everthing it stands for. Maybe the children will understand...maybe not

bull****. muslims have been very successful in this country, and we have way more than the Uk or most EU countries.

There is more homophobia in the US than anti-muslim hate, and gays have never committed a terrorist attack.

[arista]

The Dad who does not think
his address on a Islamic Facebook page connected to his son
is a problem

he said it should not be on it etc


Case Closed

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by arista

The Dad who does not think
his address on a Islamic Facebook page connected to his son
is a problem

he said it should not be on it etc


Case Closed

An Islamic facebook page? What is the page for?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

An Islamic facebook page? What is the page for?

The Page was Terrorism

Why is it still there - Facebook do not read
or have staff to do it.



He says he does not know Why his Address
is on that page/


I say to him Go Fecking find out
why his home address is on that page
that has upset the USA Embassy

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by arista

The Page was Terrorism

Why is it still there - Facebook do not read
or have staff to do it.



He says he does not know Why his Address
is on that page/


I say to him Go Fecking find out
why his home address is on that page
that has upset the USA Embassy

Oh a Radical Islamic page, I read it as just Islamic, they were perfectly within their rights to stop them then if that is the case

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

Oh a Radical Islamic page, I read it as just Islamic, they were perfectly within their rights to stop them then if that is the case

But USA Homeland Security
called it Radical Islamic Page


Are you Cherie - Telling those Armed men their Fecking Job?


Whatever Next!

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Good to know at least one country is checking who goes in and out of it and refusing to let in people who they are suspicious about..

[arista]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

Good to know at least one country is checking who goes in and out of it and refusing to let in people who they are suspicious about..

LT they have to much more now
after that Evil Woman terrorist
and her Husband Machine Gunned loads in California,




this Labour MP is looking silly
as she did see the Dad talking live
to Kay Burley

[lostalex]

where can i watch the muslim dad talking in interview?

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

where can i watch the muslim dad talking in interview?

I am sure Kay will post it, soon



This is a Early video
not the facebook Question


http://news.sky.com/video/1611410/we...at-the-airport

[lostalex]

his name is Mohammad Tariq Mahmoud and he puts carpets on the wall instead of on the floor... gee, no red flags there...

can we also talk about why he has hulk hogan arms? maybe this isn't even about terrorism, might be something to do with him having involvement in illegal steroids?