[Shaun]

Oh I'm tired of this argument.

There's a difference between holding views that are unpopular and holding views that are actively discriminatory. Yes he should be heard, yes he should have a platform, but whenever he's reacted to with boos or jeers or ridicule it's because he's said something stupid and wrong and that's that.

It is fairly amusing seeing all of the 'freedom of speech' campaigners never really once stepping foot into the other 'freedom' movements, be they gay, religious, gender-related or racial.

In short: should we respect him? No. Should we listen to him/others like him, and tackle him head on? Yes.

(I'm not basing any of this on the Emma interview bc I wasn't paying attention to it)

[Calderyon]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether it´s right or wrong.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether it´s right or wrong.

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[reece(:]

His views will never get my respect.

It's good he's being exposed for his dire views though.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by reece(:

His views will never get my respect.

It's good he's being exposed for his dire views though.

tbh

I think there's a difference between people not supporting gay marriage to those who call it "child abuse".

[rubymoo]

I think everybody has a right to their opinion, however, Winstons opinion about gay couples adopting children being paramount to child abuse is ridiculous, with some opinions you can listen, raise your eyebrows and move on!

[Visage]

Saying that gay people shouldn't adopt because it's child abuse isn't just an opinion it's offensive and completely untrue, people will always hate on that kind of behaviour.

These comments should be exposed and it's up to Winston where he goes from here.

You can't just say "Oh, I don't agree with you, but carry on likening gay adoption to child abuse, that's fine"

[Shaun]

The "everyone's entitled to an opinion" really is the last call of the defeated

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Shaun

The "everyone's entitled to an opinion" really is the last call of the defeated

Who is not entitled to an opinion then?

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Shaun

The "everyone's entitled to an opinion" really is the last call of the defeated

What do you mean?

I´m really confused.

I don´t agree with it (his opinion), but like everyone he has a right to voice his opinion, however outrageous and wrong it is.

[EspeonBB]

When someone likens gay adoption to child abuse and then defends that point using Christianity I'm not going to respect their views ever

I'm not saying he's not entitled to hold his views, I'm just saying I don't respect it

[Maru]

I think we can respect that other people don't necessarily drive the same car we do or buy the same milk. When we are talking about social issues such as the adoption of children by gay couple and decisions on handling poverty that literally effect lives, the rules change.

Winston is trying to be a politician and I think that amplified the reaction. His poor character showed through poorly on BB, even with editing.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Maru

I think we can respect that other people don't necessarily drive the same car we do or buy the same milk. When we are talking about social issues such as the adoption of children by gay couple and decisions on handling poverty that literally effect lives, the rules change.

Winston is trying to be a politician and I think that amplified the reaction. His poor character showed through poorly on BB, even with editing.

So what do you propose we do about Winston and others daring to have an opinion on social issues that you don't agree with?

[GiRTh]

Of course we respect opinions we dont agree with. Then we rip them to pieces.

[Shaun]

No one ever says otherwise Cherie, it's just always banded about as a last resort when someone has nothing left to say or defend themselves or their beliefs.

[Kazanne]

I am not saying we should respect them,but hell no one can say anything now without being bloody offended,it's ridiculous ,so he said stuff we don't like,that's his problem everyone should ignore it, no one says how they really feel anymre they are too scared to do that,the PC brigade are bleeding dangerous.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I am not saying we should respect them,but hell no one can say anything now without being bloody offended,it's ridiculous ,so he said stuff we don't like,that's his problem everyone should ignore it, no one says how they really feel anymre they are too scared to do that,the PC brigade are bleeding dangerous.

This forum..

Someone could write an essay on why slavery was wrong and even then you would all come out screaming "PC BRIGADE!! LOONY LEFT! YOU SHAG MARX"

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

This forum..

Someone could write an essay on why slavery was wrong and even then you would all come out screaming "PC BRIGADE!! LOONY LEFT! YOU SHAG MARX"

I rest my case,lol and stop shouting and who shagged Richard Marx ?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I am not saying we should respect them,but hell no one can say anything now without being bloody offended,it's ridiculous ,so he said stuff we don't like,that's his problem everyone should ignore it, no one says how they really feel anymre they are too scared to do that,the PC brigade are bleeding dangerous.

He said gay adoption is akin to child abuse. It's a statement that's beyond ignorant and offensive. He offered no evidence to show his view is correct and instead rambled on about his christian beliefs.

[Ninastar]

I just think people are over reacting a little bit. Especially people who his opinions don't even affect. Like seriously, I want kids more than anything and its more than likely that I will have to adopt... But I know opinions like this exist and it doesn't bother me at all. Unless someone is threatening my life or wishing me death etc, then I just don't care. People are allowed to have a different opinion to me

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Chaos

I just think people are over reacting a little bit. Especially people who his opinions don't even affect. Like seriously, I want kids more than anything and its more than likely that I will have to adopt... But I know opinions like this exist and it doesn't bother me at all. Unless someone is threatening my life or wishing me death etc, then I just don't care. People are allowed to have a different opinion to me

Sums up my feelings on it all

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Chaos

I just think people are over reacting a little bit. Especially people who his opinions don't even affect. Like seriously, I want kids more than anything and its more than likely that I will have to adopt... But I know opinions like this exist and it doesn't bother me at all. Unless someone is threatening my life or wishing me death etc, then I just don't care. People are allowed to have a different opinion to me

I agree. It makes no sense to get so worked up over one persons unpopular opinion, it's irrelevant.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I agree. It makes no sense to get so worked up over one persons unpopular opinion, it's irrelevant.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Chaos

Obviously going with what's going on tonight... Do you think it's right to boo and hate and argue with those who we don't agree with?

It really winds me up how awful everyone has been towards Winston. Yes he's pretty disgusting with his views, but do people really think that treating him they way they did would fix anything? Like surely, it's better to show people they are wrong, rather than try and make them feel **** for their opinions?

I honestly think that when you treat people like they are disgusting for having a different opinion to you, it doesn't solve anything... You can change peoples opinions by encouraging them and hoping for the best. If you try and force them, nothing will change.

Just my opinion... I'm sure I'm in the minority though.

I totally respect other opinions but what he said about gay people having a child is like child molestation it sickened me (and obviously many many others) to the absolute core. You live by the sword you die by the sword. You make a statement and when you have said it it has been said and there is no going back and he OBVIOUSLY wasn't retracting it. I have never seen such disgust ( and rightfully so) in Emmas face. That man has lost any support he had except of course vile little ninny Jeremy who obviously doesn't see much wrong in what Winston said. He kept trying to move the game on last night while the others were sitting there in shock.

Winston DESERVED everything he got last night and to be honest he didn't seen to give a TOSS

[Niamh.]

And equally people have the right to disagree with those opinions Caitlin