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so Academies are for children with Rich parents only, or am i wrong?


Academies are where children wear school uniforms, right
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What is the age range Will, usually Colleges are for 16 plus?
..our feeder school is a college, they used to be called upper schools in the three tier system where there were middle schools as well..there are still a few areas here who haven't yet gone over to the two tier system yet, but our colleges take children from 11yrs old, with 6th forms from 16yrs old...
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..our feeder school is a college, they used to be called upper schools in the three tier system where there were middle schools as well..there are still a few areas here who haven't yet gone over to the two tier system yet, but our colleges take children from 11yrs old, with 6th forms from 16yrs old...
We haven't had a three tier system for years, primary 3 to 11, then a mixture of secondary schools including comprehensive, academy and grammar, sixth form colleges and a college which is for 16 plus and offers NVQs and BTechs as well as A levels, what will happen to grammar schools under this new policy

The private school has a lower, middle and upper though

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We haven't had a three tier system for years, primary 3 to 11, then a mixture of secondary schools including comprehensive, academy and grammar, sixth form colleges and a college which is for 16 plus and offers NVQs and BTechs as well as A levels, what will happen to grammar schools under this new policy

The private school has a lower, middle and upper though
..yeah, we've been one of the later counties to adopt the two tier system and when we did, there was a lot of concerns/opposition from parents who felt that the 'soft and gentler easing' through a middle school was the way but I don't think that I've spoken to any parent since who has that same view and still thinks that it wasn't a good idea...there will undoubtedly be exceptions, I'm sure but on the whole, it's been a great thing...the interesting thing about academy schools as well is that we've created a 'network' to go around and look at some academy schools with some of our local state run schools because we were sceptical as well and so far..(we've visited 5 I think and met to discuss them because I think the only way is to actually see something up and running/see how it works for ourselves..)..it's all been really favourable stuff, things that we would like to implement ourselves in school but we're not able to because of funding...both staff and pupils seem really happy with their academy school and for good reasons...we also have one locally which hasn't been 'tested' yet as it's still being built but already, there are many pupils in the local community college who are hoping to and eager to transfer there when it opens because of what it's offering compared to what they have available to them atm....
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For Labour, shadow education secretary Lucy Powell accused ministers of ignoring a warning by the Chief Inspector of Schools Sir Michael Wilshaw highlighting "serious weaknesses" in academy chains.
"How the Government can plough ahead with the wholesale academisation of all schools in light of his evidence beggars belief. We want to see robust accountability and oversight of all schools regardless of type," she said.

"It's about time the Government came forward with a comprehensive plan for school improvement for all children, in all schools up and down the country, and a serious strategy for raising standards for the next generation."

Writing in the Independent, shadow Chancellor John McDonnell said: "There is no economic justification for the Chancellor's cuts. He has made a political choice to impose them. That has meant putting his own ambitions on the Tory leadership ahead of what is good for the country."

Mr McDonnell accused the Chancellor of planning to target the most vulnerable to plug the holes in his economic plans.
"This constitutes a new low. Labour will insist that he steps back from the brink," he said.'

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I have no idea why the government continue to Shylock education... it's THE most vital part of a healthy economy, surely.

Unless, of course, what they want is the majority of people going into unskilled labour or vocational trades with only those who can afford private education going into academia or careers that require a higher level of education. That couldn't possibly be what they would like to see though, right?
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I have no idea why the government continue to Shylock education... it's THE most vital part of a healthy economy, surely.

Unless, of course, what they want is the majority of people going into unskilled labour or vocational trades with only those who can afford private education going into academia or careers that require a higher level of education. That couldn't possibly be what they would like to see though, right?
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Should be grateful they have a school to go to the kids of Africa would love a academy
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My girls go to a secondary school academy, last year the deputy head told the students they were bankrupt, so they were trying to think of ways to make extra money, however they have just kitted out the computer suites with brand new computers with windows 10, this winter my girls have had to sit in classes with their coats on because the heating has been turned off, something tells me that maybe they aren't running this school as well as it should be, and why aren't academy's changing school holidays and sticking to state school holidays, the difference of a holiday a week before and after the summer hols are considerably lower, i'll be glad when my 2 leave the school system behind!
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My girls go to a secondary school academy, last year the deputy head told the students they were bankrupt, so they were trying to think of ways to make extra money, however they have just kitted out the computer suites with brand new computers with windows 10, this winter my girls have had to sit in classes with their coats on because the heating has been turned off, something tells me that maybe they aren't running this school as well as it should be, and why aren't academy's changing school holidays and sticking to state school holidays, the difference of a holiday a week before and after the summer hols are considerably lower, i'll be glad when my 2 leave the school system behind!
..I just read that as 'knitted out' their computer suites, Ruby..I was thinking how inventive and clever that was....(it's because I was having a knitting (ish) conversation with someone at the time..)...mind you, we've sat with our coats on at school/no heating many, many times and we're not an academy school....
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..I just read that as 'knitted out' their computer suites, Ruby..I was thinking how inventive and clever that was....(it's because I was having a knitting (ish) conversation with someone at the time..)...mind you, we've sat with our coats on at school/no heating many, many times and we're not an academy school....
well i feel so stupid, Ammi for thinking a academy school is only for rich children


really awkward for me thinking that
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well i feel so stupid, Ammi for thinking a academy school is only for rich children


really awkward for me thinking that
Academys used to be private schools, so its no surprise its confusing
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Academys used to be private schools, so its no surprise its confusing
thank you, i feel slightly less awkward now
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well i feel so stupid, Ammi for thinking a academy school is only for rich children


really awkward for me thinking that
...awww, don't feel awkward Nicky, I wouldn't know how the education system in The Netherlands fully works or in many other countries either...academies aren't new as such but they're on the rise atm so we're all pretty much in the learning stage with them....
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...awww, don't feel awkward Nicky, I wouldn't know how the education system in The Netherlands fully works or in many other countries either...academies aren't new as such but they're on the rise atm so we're all pretty much in the learning stage with them....
well here we got normal education i think, here in the Netherlands they make it overcomplicated


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If you want to further confuse matters - the school I went to was called "[Town Name] Academy"... but it was NOT an "Academy" as described here - it was just a normal state High School. Dunno if the naming standard differs between Scotland and England but it's certainly got me confuddled . In fact, all of the state high schools I can think of "up here" are called "[blah] Academy"...
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Two schools in my town are both academy's and out of about 20-25 schools in the local area, those two have the worst reputation by quite some way. I think both were forced into academy status though after the government called funding off due to depleting percentages in pass rates, so I think they already had a bad reputation before hand.
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Two schools in my town are both academy's and out of about 20-25 schools in the local area, those two have the worst reputation by quite some way. I think both were forced into academy status though after the government called funding off due to depleting percentages in pass rates, so I think they already had a bad reputation before hand.
..they would get some government funding, even if they were Academy Schools, Daniel but it sounds as though they maybe should have considered being in a multi academy, rather than stand alone ones..if they're stand alone academies, then yeah I do think that they're going to struggle a lot, regardless..as you say, they sound as though they were under-performing before and I think that multi academy trusts can be specially good in that situation..the whole purpose in them really, to be able to pool and draw from resources/staff etc of those higher performing schools and raise the standards of the under-performing so that all children in the trust from varying individual school performances are given the same, equal opportunities...
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No whistleblowers thank you...

Parent governors are to be scrapped from school governing bodies in favour of professionals with the “right skills”, the government has announced.

Until now there have been places reserved for elected parents on school governing bodies, but under plans outlined in the education white paper published on Thursday those roles will now disappear.

The new emphasis will be on the skills an individual brings to a school governing body, rather than stakeholder representation. The government says it wants to change the way parents have a voice in the school system.

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Hehehe... The petitions have begun, and the weight of public opinion is unavoidable.

Hold a public inquiry and referendum over turning all schools into academies.
Including both petitions, that’s a rate of over 2,000 signatures an hour, counting the time most British people are sleeping. Both petitions reaching 100,000 signatures means there will be double the mandate for this policy to be debated in parliament. It is government policy that all petitions reaching 100,000 signatures must be ‘considered’ for debate.

And the pressure is mounting.

These petitions are accelerating exponentially following an uproar on Twitter, strong condemnation from the Labour party, and the UK’s teachers and pupils themselves. This unrest is spreading like wildfire, and coalescing within the Anti Academies Alliance – a campaign group made up of parents, pupils, teachers, MPs, councillors, and trade unions.

As The Canary reported, this forced move away from local government and local accountability amounts to widespread privatisation of schools nationwide:

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