[Jamie89]

I'm not sure, but like most warnings nowadays I think it was more for the benefit of the viewers that might complain and a way of covering themselves. IF something were to happen further down the road and Natalie was violent towards someone (not saying she would, it's a big "if") then people would point at instances like this, possible warning signs of violence, and blame BB for allowing it, and they'd come under a lot of fire. That's what I think the producers mentality is when giving warnings anyway. They're just covering their backs.

[Pete.]

Um I don't really know. It was probably so Ch5 save their asses again but Natalie didn't exactly thump Laura like Evelyn and Ryan made out she did so I'm not so sure

[MojoNixon]

I think that Natalie is kind of new Helen Wood. No matter how bad she is, there are always those who love and worship her.

[joeysteele]

Yes, in fact overdue for me.

[Beso]

Well deserved warning, clubber Lang had butchers arms half her size and he decked sly Stallone.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Well deserved warning, clubber Lang had butchers arms half her size and he decked sly Stallone.

[starry]

Originally Posted by Daniel-X

If Natalie got one Ryan should've.

He's one of their favourites.

Bull**** poll result as it stands. If the focus is clearly on winding someone up, as that task was, and as the response during and after the task also clearly was, then pushing someone away is hardly surprising. Frankly the producers probably wanted more and Natalie didn't oblige. Maybe like Andrew didn't oblige before. Makes the producers look pretty stupid to me. But people will swallow their bull**** storyline.

[starry]

I also wonder if she was put in a separate room as she said she'd walk, and they wanted to talk her out of it. There's always stuff we are never told now, same with the Andrew thing, so you as the audience have to fill in the blanks.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Yes. Dumb thing to do. She is a simpleton. Anyone that thinks it i ok to lash out at someone is just being silly.
It really doesnt matter if she hit her arm or not you cant lash out towards people.

No-one has the right to raise their hand to anyone else, ever. I think those who are defending her might well feel differently if they were on the receiving end of it.

Not acceptable, so the warning was justified. Actions have consequences. And it's actually no big deal really to get a warning from BB, so I don't understand what the fuss is about in all honesty.

[Ammi]

..it was hard to actually see the incident because they were all crowded around and then Laura exclaimed that she's hit her.../if she laid her hands on her in anger/annoyance then yes, it was warranted and she definitely needed to be called to the DR to be removed from an escalating situation and for time out...

[Ammi]

..time out.....jeez, I think I'm at school...

[wendywillow]

no, she was acting the fool but everyone overreacted

[Amy Jade]

I'm honestly not sure, I couldn't tell from the angle shown but I do think Laura, Evelyn and Ryan majorly over egged the situation to get her in trouble.

Ryan is only doing it in a desperate attempt to get in with the originals (which I applaude) but to stoop as low as attempting to get somebody warned/ejected is way worse than stating facts like Natalie did about Hughie and got crucified for

[kirklancaster]

If one actually analyses exactly what transpired, they will see:

1. That the wine was merely in the process of being dispensed into various cups with NO ONE actually lifting any cup to their lips and attempting to drink.

It is impossible therefore at this stage, to state with certainty just what the HM's who were dispensing the wine INTENDED to do next:

a) Where they greedily and selfishly filling their own individual cups with no care or regard for other HM's not yet present?

b) Where they genuinely pouring the wine into cups with the intention of then re-pouring from overfull cups into less full cups to ensure that the wine was shared as equally as possible, and that each HM received a cup?

The only evidence we can consider is the TESTIMONY of the HM's themselves as to what their intentions were;

c) LAURA: "I actually was going to share it out". "I took it to share it out with everybody".

With no other evidence to guide us, and presumption and speculation not admissable, then we have to accept b) above, that the intention WAS to share the wine equally AND ensure that ALL the HM's received their share*.

2. Natalie, was BRUSQUE in the manner in which she joined the other HM's at the table; leaning in, arms extended and pointing.

3. Natalie BARKED commands in an aggressive and rude tone.

4. Natalie was ARROGANT and CONFRONTATIONAL when she snatched the wine bottle from Ryan's grasp.

5. Natalie was CONFRONTATIONAL, CONTEMPTUOUS, and ARROGANT when she responded to the HM's LEGITIMATE protestations by TURNING HER BACK and WALKING AWAY, and saying: "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah."

6. Natalie had only mere personal PRESUMPTION and NO EVIDENCE at all, to justify stating that: "I realised that we weren't going to get any".

7. Natalie was AGGRESSIVE and VIOLENT in both word and action when she knocked Laura's arm away and told her to "Feck off".

My verdict is that BB's warning to Natalie was justified.

*It should be noted here, that the abhorrent game-playing manipulator Sam - who was later to defend Natalie and sympathise with her to the other HM's - was THE ONLY HM to actually selfishly scurry away from the table clutching a glass full of wine which HE HAD JUST POURED HIMSELF, whilst contemptuously LAUGHING to boot.

Rat Sam's 'defence' of Natalie was nothing more than a preemptive tactic to divert blame for the fracas away from Natalie so that he could later unfairly refocus it on Ryan.

Whatever DID previously occur between Sam and Ryan, it has become irrefutably obvious whilst watching this show, that BOTH Ryan and Sam, have 'buried the hatchet' - Ryan has genuinely buried it, and Sam has buried it in Ryan's back.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

If one actually analyses exactly what transpired, they will see:

1. That the wine was merely in the process of being dispensed into various cups with NO ONE actually lifting any cup to their lips and attempting to drink.

It is impossible therefore at this stage, to state with certainty just what the HM's who were dispensing the wine INTENDED to do next:

a) Where they greedily and selfishly filling their own individual cups with no care or regard for other HM's not yet present?

b) Where they genuinely pouring the wine into cups with the intention of then re-pouring from overfull cups into less full cups to ensure that the wine was shared as equally as possible, and that each HM received a cup?

The only evidence we can consider is the TESTIMONY of the HM's themselves as to what their intentions were;

c) LAURA: "I actually was going to share it out". "I took it to share it out with everybody".

With no other evidence to guide us, and presumption and speculation not admissable, then we have to accept b) above, that the intention WAS to share the wine equally AND ensure that ALL the HM's received their share*.

2. Natalie, was BRUSQUE in the manner in which she joined the other HM's at the table; leaning in, arms extended and pointing.

3. Natalie BARKED commands in an aggressive and rude tone.

4. Natalie was ARROGANT and CONFRONTATIONAL when she snatched the wine bottle from Ryan's grasp.

5. Natalie was CONFRONTATIONAL, CONTEMPTUOUS, and ARROGANT when she responded to the HM's LEGITIMATE protestations by TURNING HER BACK and WALKING AWAY, and saying: "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah."

6. Natalie had only mere personal PRESUMPTION and NO EVIDENCE at all, to justify stating that: "I realised that we weren't going to get any".

7. Natalie was AGGRESSIVE and VIOLENT in both word and action when she knocked Laura's arm away and told her to "Feck off".

My verdict is that BB's warning to Natalie was justified.

*It should be noted here, that the abhorrent game-playing manipulator Sam - who was later to defend Natalie and sympathise with her to the other HM's - was THE ONLY HM to actually selfishly scurry away from the table clutching a glass full of wine which HE HAD JUST POURED HIMSELF, whilst contemptuously LAUGHING to boot.

Rat Sam's 'defence' of Natalie was nothing more than a preemptive tactic to divert blame for the fracas away from Natalie so that he could later unfairly refocus it on Ryan.

Whatever DID previously occur between Sam and Ryan, it has become irrefutably obvious whilst watching this show, that BOTH Ryan and Sam, have 'buried the hatchet' - Ryan has genuinely buried it, and Sam has buried it in Ryan's back.

I didn't notice that (the bit in bold about Sam) It shouldn't really surprise me though, I don't trust him at all. Completely agree with your views on him.

[ebandit]

dunno.....i were too busy laughing at natalie selfishly grabbing drinks

and evelyn's ridiculous reaction....'she hit her'......'she hit her'....

'she hit her'....

Mark L

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Daniel-X

If Natalie got one Ryan should've.

Why ? I didn't think he physically touched anyone.....maybe I missed something

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I'm not sure, but like most warnings nowadays I think it was more for the benefit of the viewers that might complain and a way of covering themselves. IF something were to happen further down the road and Natalie was violent towards someone (not saying she would, it's a big "if") then people would point at instances like this, possible warning signs of violence, and blame BB for allowing it, and they'd come under a lot of fire. That's what I think the producers mentality is when giving warnings anyway. They're just covering their backs.

I would say this is exactly why.

[hot2go]

I agree with Jamie.... Natalie was confrontational but nothing we didn't know and haven't seen before....she HAD to be given a warning tho.

The most interesting part of the drama was Sams little passive aggressive routine...his give a sh-t attitude to Natalie when it kicked off....his attempts to use the situation to turn people against Ryan....and his fake " Pride if Britain " speach when he pretended to take the moral high ground even though he actually p-ssed off the moment the trouble started.

[Griffin5779]

Yes and they did her a favor. She seems to have little idea of what is exceptable behavior in a group of people... maybe now she will moderate her behavior.

[Denver]

She was warned for being black simple as

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Adam.

She was warned for being black simple as

I love you Adam, but tell me you are jesting? Or was Mike Tyson the sweetest, kindest, gentleman on the planet and only depicted so adversely because he was black too?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ebandit

dunno.....i were too busy laughing at natalie selfishly grabbing drinks

and evelyn's ridiculous reaction....'she hit her'......'she hit her'....

'she hit her'....

Mark L

Evelyn knew exactly what she was doing there, talk about milking the situation and trying to get Natalie kicked out

[Denver]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I love you Adam, but tell me you are jesting? Or was Mike Tyson the sweetest, kindest, gentleman on the planet and only depicted so adversely because he was black too?

come on Marco and Lauren got away scott free for their actions to each other Natalie gets jumped fights the bullies off and gets warned

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Evelyn knew exactly what she was doing there, talk about milking the situation and trying to get Natalie kicked out

I think you're right



(I also just wanted an excuse to post that gif since I went to all the trouble of making it and she's done nothing in the last few weeks so )