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Greg! · 26-07-2016, 01:25 PM

Is Grant only famous for being Anthea Turners ex?

Greg! · 26-07-2016, 01:26 PM

Screaming at Frankie Grande being there

Mitchell · 26-07-2016, 01:27 PM

Aubrey
Helen
Samantha
Christopher
Beth
Renee
Biggins
Grant
Katie
Chloe
Marnie
Stephen bear
Lewis Bore
ANYONE ELSE
Frankie Grande

Withano · 26-07-2016, 01:39 PM

Frankie Grande will be a national hate figure. Perez Hilton without the relevance.

Tom4784 · 26-07-2016, 01:44 PM

No, Frankie's awful.

lewis111 · 26-07-2016, 02:05 PM

The males seem awful but when are they not
Amazing female line up tho

Crimson Dynamo · 26-07-2016, 02:05 PM

Biggings

Tom4784 · 26-07-2016, 02:14 PM

A season of awfulness is enough to judge that he's going to be ****ing terrible. It's not like he's a stranger to reality shows, we've seen how he acts in a BB house and there's nothing to suggest that anything has changed since then.

People are allowed to dislike him, Jack. They have grounds to do so.

Jack_ · 26-07-2016, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

A season of awfulness is enough to judge that he's going to be ****ing terrible. It's not like he's a stranger to reality shows, we've seen how he acts in a BB house and there's nothing to suggest that anything has changed since then.

People are allowed to dislike him, Jack. They have grounds to do so.

I'm talking more about the principle of judging housemates for things that have happened outside of the house before the series even begins (i.e. this goes beyond Frankie), given the premise it's a bigger problem on CBB but it renders the show pointless. We may as well just decide who's got the cleanest record now and crown them the winner

There's nothing to suggest he has stayed the same either, nobody knows him or has access to live feeds of his life so it's pointless conjecture. I accept people dislike him and may not want him to go in, my point is more about leaving preconceptions at the door once the series actually begins and judging him and all of them on a clean slate - which is the entire point of the programme

Braden · 26-07-2016, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

I'm talking more about the principle of judging housemates for things that have happened outside of the house before the series even begins (i.e. this goes beyond Frankie), given the premise it's a bigger problem on CBB but it renders the show pointless. We may as well just decide who's got the cleanest record now and crown them the winner

There's nothing to suggest he has stayed the same either, nobody knows him or has access to live feeds of his life so it's pointless conjecture. I accept people dislike him and may not want him to go in, my point is more about leaving preconceptions at the door once the series actually begins and judging him and all of them on a clean slate - which is the entire point of the programme

I think it's because you use the word 'preconception' though.

Most people on here do not have preconceived opinions about Frankie because they watched him on a TV show for 88 days where there was live feed 24/7.

Jack_ · 26-07-2016, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden

I tihnk it's because you used the word 'preconception' though. Most people on here do not have preconceived opinions because they watched him on TV show for 88 days where there was live feed 24/7.

But in the context of the sentence I said the problem with CBB is that people don't leave their preconceptions at the door

I understand why people may not want him to go in, but if he actually does then that's that and people should judge him and the rest of them on a clean slate based on what they actually do inside the house as housemates, because that's the point of the show

Braden · 26-07-2016, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

But in the context of the sentence I said the problem with CBB is that people don't leave their preconceptions at the door

I understand why people may not want him to go in, but if he actually does then that's that and people should judge him and the rest of them on a clean slate based on what they actually do inside the house as housemates, because that's the point of the show

If you use that logic in the sense of liking a housemate before they enter an all-star season then it kind of seems a bit silly.

It's like someone saying 'I loved Jayne Connery on BB17, I can't wait to see her when she enters All-Stars', and then you saying 'well she might not be the same this time around so I think you should withold you 'preconception'. It doesn't make sense.

Tom4784 · 26-07-2016, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

I'm talking more about the principle of judging housemates for things that have happened outside of the house before the series even begins (i.e. this goes beyond Frankie), given the premise it's a bigger problem on CBB but it renders the show pointless. We may as well just decide who's got the cleanest record now and crown them the winner

There's nothing to suggest he has stayed the same either, nobody knows him or has access to live feeds of his life so it's pointless conjecture. I accept people dislike him and may not want him to go in, my point is more about leaving preconceptions at the door once the series actually begins and judging him and all of them on a clean slate - which is the entire point of the programme

Would you be saying this for someone you consider 'boring' or who doesn't fit your definition of 'entertaining'? I don't think you would.

CBB relies on preconceptions, to compare it to Civilian BB is a bit ridiculous since the HMS in Civ BB aren't typically known anyway.

We've known how he acts in BB and we've stated out displeasure at the fact he's in. Deal with it.

Jack_ · 26-07-2016, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Would you be saying this for someone you consider 'boring' or who doesn't fit your definition of 'entertaining'? I don't think you would.

CBB relies on preconceptions, to compare it to Civilian BB is a bit ridiculous since the HMS in Civ BB aren't typically known anyway.

We've known how he acts in BB and we've stated out displeasure at the fact he's in. Deal with it.

Err...yes, because I don't term anyone 'boring' or 'entertaining' until well over a week in most of the time, and that's because you cannot judge them until you've watched them. There are plenty of celebrities I like and may want to take part but I'm not gonna blindly support them (or dislike them, conversely) based on what they've done outside the house because that's not the point of the show. If Chris Moyles or Ronnie O'Sullivan were dullards for example I'd be campaigning for them to be evicted like I would anyone else

Yes it relies on preconceptions before they enter, not during! That is precisely my point. I understand why people don't want him to be cast but if he actually is then people should judge him on a clean slate. If he's as 'awful' as before the fine, but in theory there is no reason why he can't act differently this time around - and that's what people should wait and see

Opposition to him entering makes sense, blindly hating him all series based on BB16 rather than the series he's actually taking part in doesn't. It makes the show pointless

As a side note things like this also occur on civilian, i.e Andrew being ejected for things that happened outside of the house

Withano · 26-07-2016, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

blindly hating him all series based on BB16 rather than the series he's actually taking part in doesn't. It makes the show pointless

Comepletely hypocritical considering youre doing the exact opposite.

Jason. · 26-07-2016, 02:19 PM

What a repulsive line-up!

LukeB · 26-07-2016, 02:23 PM

Sam Fox - Page 3 model

Marnie Simpson - Geordie Shore

Lewis Bloor - Towies

Stephen Bear - Ex On The Beach

Katie Waissel - X Factor reject

Christopher Biggins - Wanker

Renee Graziano - Mob Wives

Grant Bovey - Film Maker

Aubrey O'Day - Singer

Beth Chapman - Dog The Bounty Hunter star

Helen Lederer - Comedian

Frankie Grande - BBUSA Contestant

Chloe Khan - X Factor reject

Black Dagger · 26-07-2016, 02:24 PM

Aubrey, Helen and Katie. The rest can ****ing go home. Katie and Aubrey are early first boosts already. Helen won't get votes as well and is an easy nom. So this series can be cancelled.

Lostie! · 26-07-2016, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by _LucasMichael_

Aubrey, Helen and Katie. The rest can ****ing go home. Katie and Aubrey are early first boosts already. Helen won't get votes as well and is an easy nom. So this series can be cancelled.

If Aubrey's the same twat she was on Celebrity Apprentice then she'll probably survive for a while on vote to save like Farrah last year.