[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

TS has to suck ass these days to keep from having his controversial ass booted Cherie
Belief in god and religion are inextricably linked, it's this that needs to be questioned It's perfectly acceptable to have one without the other without silly labels like agnostic.

it's one of the things that amuses me about TiBB, who needs BB, the psychology on TiBB is endlessly amusing

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

it's one of the things that amuses me about TiBB, who needs BB, the psychology on TiBB is endlessly amusing

innit tho?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

TS has to suck bum these days to keep from having his controversial ass booted Cherie
Belief in god and religion are inextricably linked, it's this that needs to be questioned It's perfectly acceptable to have one without the other without silly labels like agnostic.

I've got Niamh in my pocket and I'm working on Vicky. Dezzy's been getting a little shaky though, one to watch there . Thankfully they'll never figure out my nefarious scheme.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I've got Niamh in my pocket and I'm working on Vicky. Dezzy's been getting a little shaky though, one to watch there . Thankfully they'll never figure out my nefarious scheme.

Dezzy? That pussy cat! Putty in my hands mate, putty in my hands

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Dezzy? That pussy cat! Putty in my hands mate, putty in my hands

Not a bear fan though. Not a bear fan whatsoever

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

With or without religion human being will still want to **** on one another power, money and status and wanting control are Gods for a lot more people than Religious Deities.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, Power really is the root of all evil, organised religion (in my humble opinion of course) is just a tool that humans used to gain power over people, if that goes no doubt something else would replace it

...this really, it's the person themselves and their leaning to how they want to interpret, rather than a faith or religion itself ...if someone is prejudice/intolerant/judgemental/hate-filled etc...they would be that anyway, regardless of whether they had religion in their lives or not because it's just them and their focus in life and in their hearts and the same with the opposite as well..people are not good people because of a religion and being 'Christians' or anything, they're just good people regardless, who happen to have a faith ....'God says I need to hate these people' is just a need to find a justification for hate....but that 'justification' would always be something...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I've got Niamh in my pocket and I'm working on Vicky. Dezzy's been getting a little shaky though, one to watch there . Thankfully they'll never figure out my nefarious scheme.

If you have neem in your pocket then expect her to rip off your bollocks and stuff them so far down your throat you will need to darn both socks

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If you have neem in your pocket then expect her to rip off your bollocks and stuff them so far down your throat you will need to darn both socks

Personal experience LT?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Personal experience LT?

[the truth]

gervais as always ignores the billions christian churces raise for the poor and impoverished the missionary work across the planet, the hope and inspiration they provide to billions, the food, the shelter, the spiritual nourishment....this of course doesnt sell newspapers at the daily mail

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by the truth

gervais as always ignores the billions christian churces raise for the poor and impoverished the missionary work across the planet, the hope and inspiration they provide to billions, the food, the shelter, the spiritual nourishment....this of course doesnt sell newspapers at the daily mail

same could be said of any charity, nothing to do with religion specifically

some humans like doing good as it makes them feel good

[bots]

lets all pray (prey) for TS's soul

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

lets all pray (prey) for TS's soul

There's no such thing as a soul

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There's no such thing as a soul

And if there is, mine is long lost

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

And if there is, mine is long lost

Toy Souldier

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Toy Souldier

Soulja boy tell 'em.

[Livia]

He was posed a lot of leading questions and he answered them with a certainty that only someone who doesn't have a faith would answer. I was unaware that Gervais was qualified to speak about the workings of other people's mind, I thought he was a comedian. Anyhoo... interesting and amusing opinions... and that's what they were... opinions. And he's entitled to them.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Livia

He was posed a lot of leading questions and he answered them with a certainty that only someone who doesn't have a faith would answer. I was unaware that Gervais was qualified to speak about the workings of other people's mind, I thought he was a comedian. Anyhoo... interesting and amusing opinions... and that's what they were... opinions. And he's entitled to them.

He was giving his views and opinion, I didn't see him claiming to be anyones head or that he was qualified to. Though I'd be more worried about those who think they are qualified to tell you there is a god. Or speak for one and declare what said deity thinks you should be/do.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by jaxie

He was giving his views and opinion, I didn't see him claiming to be anyones head or that he was qualified to. Though I'd be more worried about those who think they are qualified to tell you there is a god. Or speak for one and declare what said deity thinks you should be/do.

Most religions don't force you to join, you know. My own religion definitely doesn't and people have been trying to shut us down for 5,000 years.

No one has any definitive proof one way or another so everyone should be free to choose. And people should respect other people's freedom to choose even if they don't respect the religion itself. If people have faith, good for them. If they don't, good for them too. What I object to is the CONSTANT suggestion that people who do have faith are non-thinking, closed-minded morons. Because frankly, I consider myself to be an intelligent being, more than able to hold my own with anyone on this forum... and I have faith. I've never posted a thread ridiculing non-believers. Shame that isn't a two-way street.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Most religions don't force you to join, you know. My own religion definitely doesn't and people have been trying to shut us down for 5,000 years.

No one has any definitive proof one way or another so everyone should be free to choose. And people should respect other people's freedom to choose even if they don't respect the religion itself. If people have faith, good for them. If they don't, good for them too. What I object to is the CONSTANT suggestion that people who do have faith are non-thinking, closed-minded morons. Because frankly, I consider myself to be an intelligent being, more than able to hold my own with anyone on this forum... and I have faith. I've never posted a thread ridiculing non-believers. Shame that isn't a two-way street.

With all due respect Livia, most people are born into religion so it's not exactly freedom to choose, by the time they're free to choose they've already been brought up being taught their religion is fact so have alot less of a chance of really deciding for themselves on it

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

With all due respect Livia, most people are born into religion so it's not exactly freedom to choose, by the time they're free to choose they've already been brought up being taught their religion is fact so have alot less of a chance of really deciding for themselves on it

Well, I disagree. From my personal perspective I was never pushed into religion and could have walked away at any time. In fact, most religions don't hold you in handcuffs. I'm sure there are plenty of people in Ireland born into Catholicism who don't practise now. And that's fine if that's what they want. No one should be forced to do anything.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Livia

Most religions don't force you to join, you know. My own religion definitely doesn't and people have been trying to shut us down for 5,000 years.

No one has any definitive proof one way or another so everyone should be free to choose. And people should respect other people's freedom to choose even if they don't respect the religion itself. If people have faith, good for them. If they don't, good for them too. What I object to is the CONSTANT suggestion that people who do have faith are non-thinking, closed-minded morons. Because frankly, I consider myself to be an intelligent being, more than able to hold my own with anyone on this forum... and I have faith. I've never posted a thread ridiculing non-believers. Shame that isn't a two-way street.

Most people are raised within religions so are to a large extent conditioned to belief by those around them unless the god manifested to the individual personally and said believe in me dear. I'm sorry if that offends your feelings but it is a fact that people teach children/people religion. I haven't heard of many people who actually say their god told them to do it and usually those who do are often in prison!

I went to a church school myself and have seen religious conditioning first hand. So while no one is saying people are forced to believe there is definitely someone or someones who puts that faith and way of worship in your head and it isn't god.

I can assure you I haven't suggested anyone is a moron or ridiculed anyone. This conversation began because you seemed to be offended by the link and accused the person in it of things they didn't actually say. All of those things you think are being suggested haven't been. I often find your posts amusing and witty.

I fully respect anyone's right to believe in anything if it makes them happy. I am definitely not the person getting defensive.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

Most religions don't force you to join, you know. My own religion definitely doesn't and people have been trying to shut us down for 5,000 years.

No one has any definitive proof one way or another so everyone should be free to choose. And people should respect other people's freedom to choose even if they don't respect the religion itself. If people have faith, good for them. If they don't, good for them too. What I object to is the CONSTANT suggestion that people who do have faith are non-thinking, closed-minded morons. Because frankly, I consider myself to be an intelligent being, more than able to hold my own with anyone on this forum... and I have faith. I've never posted a thread ridiculing non-believers. Shame that isn't a two-way street.

Lucky yesterday Ricky did not do that. He just stuck to logic and reason

[Crimson Dynamo]

my thoughts and prayers are with TS's wife

every time he climbs aboard ha

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

my thoughts and prayers are with TS's wife

every time he climbs aboard ha

It is pretty huge.