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Old 21-06-2017, 03:53 PM #1
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I mean sure it's possible to be patronizing to a younger person, but it still can't really be considered as 'offensive' when it's not typically an offensive word. As KT Hopkins says - you choose what you get offended by.
Is it for you to decide what others find offensive? Is it for others to decide what you do? or are you suggesting that no one should ever be offended by anything, even if the clear intention is to hurt and offend?

If someone is trying to openly use age or gender to belittle and demean someone by aggressively shrieking at them, is the target not allowed to be ever offended unless you personally deem it worthy?

If she was using gay in the same manner, would you be so cool with it?

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I mean sure it's possible to be patronizing to a younger person, but it still can't really be considered as 'offensive' when it's not typically an offensive word. As KT Hopkins says - you choose what you get offended by.
But it can be insulting. The point is that using age as a stick to beat someone with is pretty ridiculous. Especially when you're harping on about how awful it is to home in on personal appearance, why is age any better?

And, as with the vast majority of what Hopkins comes out with, that defence is as weak now as it ever was.
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Is it for you to decide what others find offensive? Is it for others to decide what you do? or are you suggesting that no one should ever be offended by anything, even if the clear intention is to hurt and offend?

If someone is trying to openly use age or gender to belittle and demean someone by aggressively shrieking at them, is the target not allowed to be ever offended unless you personally deem it worthy?

If she was using gay in the same manner, would you be so cool with it?
Of course not, but you're assuming that Joe was insulted by it I guess or else it would have been pointless making the thread, unless you are personally offended by it if you are of Joe's age too maybe.

There is no such age limit to show what 'old' actually is, so that's why I'm finding this kinda silly. He's just older than her, everyone has a different perception of what 'old' is. It's obviously very different to using someone's sexuality as an attack because of discrimination etc etc so I won't even bother going into that as it's two different situations.

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But it can be insulting. The point is that using age as a stick to beat someone with is pretty ridiculous. Especially when you're harping on about how awful it is to home in on personal appearance, why is age any better?

And, as with the vast majority of what Hopkins comes out with, that defence is as weak now as it ever was.
If somebody is insulted over their age (literally just a number) being called out then I'd say that's their own problem tbh. If Rebecca had said "I don't like Joe because he's old" then I'd see how there could be an issue, but she didn't do this.

KT says lots of truth that many people are too afraid to say
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yeah that's a bad side to Rebecca but i still like her sweet side
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I really dislike both but is 56 really old man territory? My father is near that age and i don't consider him 'old'. My grandfather is 80, that is old!

Anyway as i said, dislike the pair of them. As a HM Rebecca is better i 'spose!!
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i don't take offence at being called old, its what i am. Its only people that pretend to be something they are not that get offended by it.

Factual accuracy is important. We don't have not so young peoples homes, or mature aged pensions.
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...Especially as she was so fragile about her own appearance.

It's making her look like a hypocrite.
She is a hypocrite.

She conveniently forgot SHE judges women on appearance, if they're wearing make up or not.

And she uses a man's older years as an insult.
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Hmmm I mean he's hardly flowering with age is he?
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Hmmm I mean he's hardly flowering with age is he?
Is that the point?
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