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View Poll Results: What pro are you?
Pro Life - life begins at fertilisation 3 6.38%
Pro Life - life begins at fertilisation
3 6.38%
Pro Choice 34 72.34%
Pro Choice
34 72.34%
Mixed - e.g., pro-life but the 24-week limit should be dropped 10 21.28%
Mixed - e.g., pro-life but the 24-week limit should be dropped
10 21.28%
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Old 12-07-2017, 11:33 PM #1
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better that that 1 million terminated babies every 6 years..at least they get a chance to live.
Bundles of cells that cannot sustain life are aborted, not babies. The whole 'life begins at conception' is so problematic and ignorant. Life begins when a child isn't reliant on a biological parasitic bond with their mother to survive. Life begins at birth.

Pro Lifers just want to control what women do with their own bodies, it's not about the babies because Lifers don't care once they've been born.

Control vs Freedom of choice, that is essentially what Pro Life vs Pro Choice comes down to.
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I'm pro life. This is only MY choice. Many years ago I had an abortion. I have regretted that choice many times. I often think about that boy or girl and wonder what they would have become.
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To be fair I have to go with logic and say, there is really no justification for the logic that abortion ISN'T deliberately ending a human life. I think calling it "murder" is extreme and deliberately emotive, however, it certainly is "killing", if you want to get down to technicalities. A fetus is alive before abortion. There's really no argument that it isn't alive. I suspect people like to pretend that it isn't "actually alive" to make such things more palatable.

So I guess, maybe controversially, I am aware of and accept the fact that abortion is deliberately ending a human life, and yet, I still find it to be morally justifiable. A fetus is alive but it certainly isn't yet sentient.
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Because if I can't say for sure a life is there, I can't say for sure that someone stopped that life from developing.
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To be fair I have to go with logic and say, there is really no justification for the logic that abortion ISN'T deliberately ending a human life. I think calling it "murder" is extreme and deliberately emotive, however, it certainly is "killing", if you want to get down to technicalities. A fetus is alive before abortion. There's really no argument that it isn't alive. I suspect people like to pretend that it isn't "actually alive" to make such things more palatable.

So I guess, maybe controversially, I am aware of and accept the fact that abortion is deliberately ending a human life, and yet, I still find it to be morally justifiable. A fetus is alive but it certainly isn't yet sentient.
Well yes of course technically speaking it's "alive" but it isn't conscious or capable of survival or development unless the mother carries it and nurtures it with her body. Actually, oddly enough on a personal level I don't think I'd have an abortion ever myself but I do think it's a very, very personal choice and choice here for me is the operative word. I just can't fathom how people think they have the right to try and force a woman to do something she doesn't want with her own body
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I deffo think the time limit should be drastically reduced.
When you go for that 20/21 week scan and you see your kid in there and it is a baby by then.You can see the shape of their face and you can see the sex.The thought of him/her being terminated at that age makes me ****ing shudder.
But i am for choice overall.Bringing a baby into certain financial or unstable family situations is cruel and there's already too many orphans.
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