[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

That makes absolutely horrific reading.. parents being able to force under 18s to go through with pregnancies too..just awful.

I am prochoice. I would say that the limit should be lowered possibly, but I wouldn't really label myself as 'mixed' because of that tbh.

I do not understand how on earth we could police the 'someone I know had 5 abortions last year' stories either as forcing women to go through with pregnancies doesn't sit right with me, nor does forced sterilization. But using abortion as a contraceptive, whilst vanishingly rare, does exist as yes unfortunately , a few sick people are like that.

As mentioned by others in the thread, I also find it rather weird that the most pro-life of people also tend to be vehemently against said children once born being supported. Its all well and good saying abortion should not be allowed except in cases of rape..its not a view I agree with but its a view I cqan understand, but I find it a little contradictory to then go on to accuse (for example) young mothers of 'breeding for benefits' and such. Unless the ultimate message is...females just should not have sex period unless purposely trying for a child? Which is a little bit of an old fashioned view but its the only thing that can make any sense whilst holding both positions simultaneously.

great post Vicky. regarding the BIB, it's actually a view I find a bit odd tbh, I mean if you're against abortion because you genuinely think abortion is murder then why would it be ok to murder an innocent child if the mother was raped? The answer is you can't possibly believe it is murder if you think it's ok to do it in certain circumstances. Like for example, a mother gives birth to a child who was the product of rape, would it be ok to stab that baby through the heart? No of course not, I bet you won't find a single person who says it is so clearly even the anti abortion people who think it's ok to have an abortion if the victim is raped don't feel that these foetus' are the same as babies who have been born. So I have to wonder what does motivate those people to be so against abortion. Also, i do find it odd that it's mainly men who are the strongest apposers of abortion as well