[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

Did you notice how desperate Kieran was to make amends with Raph, almost instantaneously!

I genuinely believe they are closer friends than the edit we see.

I don't think he was 'desperate' ..he knew it was wrong and didn't want to fall out with him over it. Kieron put out a hand of friendship and Raph threw it back in his face.
Raph was the bigger person on here with his fans for offering an olive branch to Joe...but when Kieron offers the same thing over a smaller issue..Raph snubs him.
I think we all know who looked the bigger idiot...Raph

[Withano]

Kieran looked a right dick tonight, went way down in my estimations.. Raphs not a great arguer but credit for calling out a prick when hes being a prick.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Withano

Kieran looked a right dick tonight, went way down in my estimations.. Raphs not a great arguer but credit for calling out a prick when hes being a prick.

Kieran was trying to weasel out of it. But Raph was not having it

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Kieran was trying to weasel out of it. But Raph was not having it

I agree, I agree with most of the posts on here so far. Kierans nice guy facade will never last, especially when youve just been caught out for being a prick. Sure he was the one that offered a handshake, but he was undeniably in the wrong, so it isnt comparable to the Joe/Raph handshake situation when they were both going in at each other.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Withano

I agree, I agree with most of the posts on here so far. Kierans nice guy facade will never last, especially when youve just been caught out for being a prick. Sure he was the one that offered a handshake, but he was undeniably in the wrong, so it isnt comparable to the Joe/Raph handshake situation when they were both going in at each other.

I do thin they like each other, so i doubt they will fall out. It was a minor disagreement.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I do thin they like each other, so i doubt they will fall out. It was a minor disagreement.

Yeah I agree with this too. Its just Kieran was doing so well for me, and then I went off him and Tom for hiding drinks, and then I went way off him for the way he reacted to being caught out. I dont think it'll change the house dynamics at all

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I do thin they like each other, so i doubt they will fall out. It was a minor disagreement.

So why didn't Raph just put it to bed and shake his hand?

[JerseyWins]

They were both fine. Simple argument but I did wonder if Raph was just trying to make Kieran look bad, basically thinking Kieran might have winner potential. I still always wonder how much Raph might be trying to use strategy in there, knowing he likes to think strategically and likes the strategic players. I also kinda wonder if Kieran actively tries to be on everyone's good side as strategy or if he's just genuinely that nice of a person. It might've just been a genuine argument on both ends. No big deal either way.

[mr rochester]

Keiron stole the booze - Raph saw him and said it should be shared. No big deal. Just because someone else does it doesn't make it right. It was blown out of proportion.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Kieron hiding the drinks...like many have done before him. Raph calling him out for it..fair enough but Kieron made him look stupid tonight. Kieron owned it but pulled him up for picking him out when others have done the same thing. Raphs only response was "well I saw you do it"...when others have done the same thing why hasn't he pulled them up for being selfish and that its for all of them.
Kieron not only owned it he tried to shake hands on it and Raph wouldn't take it.
Raph was quite happy to shake hands and move on with Joe on 2 occasions...but couldn't be the bigger person tonight.
Raph feels threatened by Kieron...and wanted to make him look bad.
Backfired IMO..Raph made himself look stupid by not being the forgiving person he is trying to make us believe he is.

I fully agree rg. Kieran is my winner for the past few weeks. Raph singled him out even though a few of the boys hid the drink. Raph is one of the most useless housemates I have ever seen and I hope he hasn't a chance of winning.

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by rionablue

I fully agree rg. Kieran is my winner for the past few weeks. Raph singled him out even though a few of the boys hid the drink. Raph is one of the most useless housemates I have ever seen and I hope he hasn't a chance of winning.

Well he made Kieran "your winner" relevant for two minutes, so he can't be all bad.

I like Kieran but if Raph is being labelled a "gameplayer" then I can't imagine what hyperbole could be handed to him!

(We have made this a bigger issue than it is, they would be back on friendly terms five minutes later...)

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

Well he made Kieran "your winner" relevant for two minutes, so he can't be all bad.

I like Kieran but if Raph is being labelled a "gameplayer" then I can't imagine what hyperbole could be handed to him!

(We have made this a bigger issue than it is, they would be back on friendly terms five minutes later...)

They seemed fine with each other at the end of the show. They even said they liked each other. It's a small disagreement.

[Shaun]

What on earth does "Kieran owned it" even mean? Like it's OK to steal from the rest of the house and keep a personal stash for your clique? lmao

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

What on earth does "Kieran owned it" even mean? Like it's OK to steal from the rest of the house and keep a personal stash for your clique? lmao

Fairly sure Sukhvinder was madly applauded on here for doing just that

I only remember as I remember how ridiculous I found that. Same with Keiran. Not sure why they nick drinks when BB appears to provide more than enough anyway...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Fairly sure Sukhvinder was madly applauded on here for doing just that

I only remember as I remember how ridiculous I found that. Same with Keiran. Not sure why they nick drinks when BB appears to provide more than enough anyway...

Difference is that Sukhvinder owned her rebellion, where as Kieran tried turning it on Raph and then got his guard dog (Sam) to follow Raph and himself outside.

[fitz2k2]

There is another side to Kieron. He wants to go off on few housemates , but he knows deep down if he did he would be evicted. He is taking pages from Jason.Past housemate.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by fitz2k2

There is another side to Kieron. He wants to go off on few housemates , but he knows deep down if he did he would be evicted. He is taking pages from Jason.Past housemate.

rubbish.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Kieron hiding the drinks...like many have done before him. Raph calling him out for it..fair enough but Kieron made him look stupid tonight. Kieron owned it but pulled him up for picking him out when others have done the same thing. Raphs only response was "well I saw you do it"...when others have done the same thing why hasn't he pulled them up for being selfish and that its for all of them.
Kieron not only owned it he tried to shake hands on it and Raph wouldn't take it.
Raph was quite happy to shake hands and move on with Joe on 2 occasions...but couldn't be the bigger person tonight.
Raph feels threatened by Kieron...and wanted to make him look bad.
Backfired IMO..Raph made himself look stupid by not being the forgiving person he is trying to make us believe he is.

I totally agree rusti,the only time Raph has been passionate was about one can of drink,seriously, they all hide stuff, I did not like this shifty move by Raph.

[Nicky91]

not Kieran going against Raph

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

not Kieran going against Raph

Was just a lovers tiff. They said they liked each other

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Kieron hiding the drinks...like many have done before him. Raph calling him out for it..fair enough but Kieron made him look stupid tonight. Kieron owned it but pulled him up for picking him out when others have done the same thing. Raphs only response was "well I saw you do it"...when others have done the same thing why hasn't he pulled them up for being selfish and that its for all of them.
Kieron not only owned it he tried to shake hands on it and Raph wouldn't take it.
Raph was quite happy to shake hands and move on with Joe on 2 occasions...but couldn't be the bigger person tonight.
Raph feels threatened by Kieron...and wanted to make him look bad.
Backfired IMO..Raph made himself look stupid by not being the forgiving person he is trying to make us believe he is.

Not a good move for Snake Boy

[DrunkerThanMoses]

After watching the clip, Kerion was in the wrong, he got caught out for being a selfish twat, then tried to make out Raph was targeting him because Raph called him out on it, pathetic from Kerion. If you want drinks ask the whole house first.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

After watching the clip, Kerion was in the wrong, he got caught out for being a selfish twat, then tried to make out Raph was targeting him because Raph called him out on it, pathetic from Kerion. If you want drinks ask the whole house first.

Raph not shaking his hand made me smile. Raph was angry

[Niamh.]

I disagree, i think raph came out on top there

[Jedman]

This was such a minimal event lol, nothing compared to the drama we used to see.