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Old 22-03-2018, 08:31 AM #26
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Authorities in Arizona have released dramatic dash cam footage showing the moments leading up to a self-driving Uber car's fatal collision with a pedestrian.

The video released by Tempe police on Wednesday shows the car driving 38ph in a 45-mph zone along a relatively empty roadway last Sunday night.

A woman walking while rolling her bicycle suddenly appears in the headlights, with the footage cutting out a split second before impact.
The footage is here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz5AT6Y83EX

As I suggested might have been the case earlier in the thread, it appears that there is little that could have been done to prevent the accident as the woman does only appear very suddenly with no time to brake
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According to his she walked out of darkness infront of this car,so maybe both at fault.
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The footage is here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz5AT6Y83EX

As I suggested might have been the case earlier in the thread, it appears that there is little that could have been done to prevent the accident as the woman does only appear very suddenly with no time to brake
...wow...sadly I doubt that could have been avoided at all..self drive or no self drive, with wearing black in the dark as well../...tragic....
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It looks dark, but then driving at night your eyes can adjust and you can detect movement in your peripheral vision... it's hazard perception isn't it? At night you are more aware of this as there are less distractions, It also helps if you look where you are going.
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is the car electric?
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Looking at the video, if she walked into the road out of nowhere then there's no way anyone could have stopped, robot or not. However I don't know much about how far these cars sensors extend. Do they only "see" the road around them? Because if so then what Kizzy says is right... a human driver may well have been "aware" of her at the side of the road or looking like she might go onto it. Also humans can pick up on erratic behaviour and adjust accordingly... an AI can't possibly know if someone is behaving "weirdly" or unpredictably.

But yeah... also, she does just walk out right in front of it. She can't possibly have looked / must have been distracted. Whether or not the car is electric is relevant too because they're so quiet... and people have grown up hearing cars coming as well as seeing them, so if all is quiet people assume they can walk out without looking properly.
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Looking at the video, if she walked into the road out of nowhere then there's no way anyone could have stopped, robot or not. However I don't know much about how far these cars sensors extend. Do they only "see" the road around them? Because if so then what Kizzy says is right... a human driver may well have been "aware" of her at the side of the road or looking like she might go onto it. Also humans can pick up on erratic behaviour and adjust accordingly... an AI can't possibly know if someone is behaving "weirdly" or unpredictably.

But yeah... also, she does just walk out right in front of it. She can't possibly have looked / must have been distracted. Whether or not the car is electric is relevant too because they're so quiet... and people have grown up hearing cars coming as well as seeing them, so if all is quiet people assume they can walk out without looking properly.
thats what i mean she was relatively old so would be relying on sound to warn her
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Vasquez had two felony convictions when she was hired by Uber for its self-driving car trials in the Phoenix, Arizona, area.

Her January 2001 conviction for attempted armed robbery led to a five-year sentence of which she served more than four years, being freed in November 2004.

Vasquez attempted to rob a Blockbuster video store with an imitation firearm.

At the same time, Vasquez was convicted of unsworn falsification committed in 1999, meaning she made a false statement to a public officials, and received a concurrent one year sentence.

At the time she was known as Rafael and identified as male. It is not known when she transitioned to female.
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they must have seen the video as well...
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'The footage “strongly suggests a failure by Uber’s automated driving system and a lack of due care by Uber’s driver”, Bryant Walker Smith, a University of South Carolina law school professor and autonomous vehicle expert, said in an email. He noted that the victim is visible about two seconds before the collision, saying: “This is similar to the average reaction time for a driver. That means an alert driver may have at least attempted to swerve or brake.”

The car was traveling at 38 miles per hour at 10pm on Sunday, according to the Tempe police chief, Sylvia Moir, who told a reporter that she thought the video showed Uber was not at fault. Experts who reviewed the footage, however, said the opposite appeared to be true.

I really don’t understand why Lidar didn’t pick this up,” said Ryan Calo, a University of Washington law professor and self-driving expert. “This video does not absolve Uber.”

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