[Matthew.]

no **** that

what an awful idea

[user104658]

Compulsory indoctrination to unquestioning obedience of authority figures?

Is there a stronger word for "no"?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

I think it would be a good idea to sign up the unruly young people and repeat offenders. It could instil some discipline and respect into them. Also it may learn them how to take responsibility for their own actions.

Life isn't like Suicide Squad, throwing criminals into armed service is just a bad idea all round.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You get the choice, military or charitable.

Is it really charity if it's forced on people? As someone else said, what does charitable national service look like? What would be the point?

Typically when people speak of bringing back National Service, I tend to think it's a case of them looking back with rose tinted glasses. I don't think it worked much back then and it certainly wouldn't work now as the world is a different place.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Withano

Oh you wanna study medicine to become a doctor? Thats great. One year in Iraq first though. Laters.

Or become the doctor first then do your years charity work.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Or become the doctor first then do your years charity work.

Excellent use of a doctors time yes.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Withano

Excellent use of a doctors time yes.

Im glad youve finally seen the point.

[Marsh.]

Wait, so they get to decide when they get a year of their life taken away from them for no possible reason?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Excellent use of a doctors time yes.

"Before you save lives, come and help to end them!"

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

"Before you save lives, come and help to end them!"

Remember that time I was about to perform life-saving surgery, but I was asked to hang up second hand clothes in a charity shop instead so I didnt.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Remember that time I was about to perform life-saving surgery, but I was asked to hang up second hand clothes in a charity shop instead so I didnt.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Wait, so they get to decide when they get a year of their life taken away from them for no possible reason?

Who?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Who?

The person being sent off to national service?

"We're going to take a year from you and force you to do something, which year would you like that to be?"

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The person being sent off to national service?

"We're going to take a year from you and force you to do something, which year would you like that to be?"

Yes....whats up with that?

You would obviously get tax benifits for the year off!

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think some teens could benefit from it,so many are ferrel and have no respect,so especially for young offenders it coud be a good thing. It may work off some of thier anger,aggresion and disrespect.

On the whole old people are more disrespectful than the young though? Especially to shop workers etc.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yes....whats up with that?

You would obviously get tax benifits for the year off!

It's a massive waste of time, you're either forcing people to delay their lives (and potentially end/ruin them) with military service or with pointless busy work in the guise of charity. It's utterly pointless either way.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Greg!

On the whole old people are more disrespectful than the young though? Especially to shop workers etc.

I was thinking 65-70 year olds should do the same if they missed out on the 18-25.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's a massive waste of time, you're either forcing people to delay their lives (and potentially end/ruin them) with military service or with pointless busy work in the guise of charity. It's utterly pointless either way.

In your head..not mine.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think some teens could benefit from it,so many are ferrel and have no respect,so especially for young offenders it coud be a good thing. It may work off some of thier anger,aggresion and disrespect.

Military service would not bestow 'respect' (I'd say the phrase you are looking for is compliance) upon people today anymore than it did when National Service was a thing, which is to say, it didn't.

National Service was a waste of time and resources back then and it would be a waste of time and resources now.

[Beso]

Charity work for the right people in the right places would instill respect.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

In your head..not mine.

Tell me the actual benefits then, What is the benefits of wasting a year of someone's life in military service that they do not want or might not be suitable for (and could easily cause them harm or death) OR having them waste time working in a Charity shop when they could be in training or forging their own career?

There's no benefits to it. It's just a waste of time that's designed to punish the younger generations.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yes....whats up with that?

You would obviously get tax benifits for the year off!

You can't see what's up with forcing people to give up a year of their lives to do something they probably don't want to do, or even worse, will not be able to handle it?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Charity work for the right people in the right places would instill respect.

And it's a complete fantasy if you think that you could find enough placements in meaningful charity work for everyone who would be forced to do it. People would just end up in a charity shop for a year of their lives and they would have nothing to show for it.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Tell me the actual benefits then, What is the benefits of wasting a year of someone's life in military service that they do not want or might not be suitable for (and could easily cause them harm or death) OR having them waste time working in a Charity shop when they could be in training or forging their own career?

There's no benefits to it. It's just a waste of time that's designed to punish the younger generations.

Id rather not talk with you, you're mind wont be changed and im not having you pick holes in my answers all night. But thanks all the same though.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Charity work for the right people in the right places would instill respect.

But, that's an ambiguous term, so by charity work you mean what exactly?