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Smithy · 07-04-2018, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I reckon for older kids cool but i’d say Disney would be too young tbh.They’re usually a ‘U’ rating i think which means kids of any age can go.Depending on the age of the kids many parents won’t have had that conversation with their kids yet.

The point is there’s no difference between two men/women kissing or a man and a woman kissing, theres no “conversation” to be had

Brillopad · 07-04-2018, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

The point is there’s no difference between two men/women kissing or a man and a woman kissing, theres no “conversation” to be had

People can have whatever conversation with their kids they choose - it isn’t your call.

Tom4784 · 07-04-2018, 11:39 AM

Homosexuality isn't something that should be age restricted, it's not inherently dirtier than a hetero relationship and it's not going to be in any way shape or form more explicit. You can tell a chaste love story between two people of the same sex just as well as you can tell a chaste hetero love story.

I'd be all for a gay princess but I don't think it's too likely to ever happen especially now Hollywood is learning that diversity doesn't always equal profits. At best we might get a nod to it in Frozen 2 but Elsa will never have a girlfriend, they'll just keep her on her own rather than pair her up with anyone else.

Trans issues require a more intricate story to tell, many adults don't fully understand it so to cover it in a good way for children would be difficult. I imagine Disney won't touch that hot button because they'll risk upsetting both sides of the coin. People will be mad that they included trans issues and others will be made if it's not done in the way they want it.

Having a slutty prince or princess is really not needed tbh.

Jamie89 · 07-04-2018, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Homosexuality isn't something that should be age restricted, it's not inherently dirtier than a hetero relationship and it's not going to be in any way shape or form more explicit. You can tell a chaste love story between two people of the same sex just as well as you can tell a chaste hetero love story.

I'd be all for a gay princess but I don't think it's too likely to ever happen especially now Hollywood is learning that diversity doesn't always equal profits. At best we might get a nod to it in Frozen 2 but Elsa will never have a girlfriend, they'll just keep her on her own rather than pair her up with anyone else.

Trans issues require a more intricate story to tell, many adults don't fully understand it so to cover it in a good way for children would be difficult. I imagine Disney won't touch that hot button because they'll risk upsetting both sides of the coin. People will be mad that they included trans issues and others will be made if it's not done in the way they want it.

Having a slutty prince or princess is really not needed tbh.

This. I think with the trans stuff they'd just have to not make it political. Maybe have a trans character shown to exist and just treated normally, but yeah nothing to do with 'trans issues', we can't even figure all that stuff out ourselves never mind try and communicate it to kids

montblanc · 07-04-2018, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Homosexuality isn't something that should be age restricted, it's not inherently dirtier than a hetero relationship and it's not going to be in any way shape or form more explicit. You can tell a chaste love story between two people of the same sex just as well as you can tell a chaste hetero love story.

I'd be all for a gay princess but I don't think it's too likely to ever happen especially now Hollywood is learning that diversity doesn't always equal profits. At best we might get a nod to it in Frozen 2 but Elsa will never have a girlfriend, they'll just keep her on her own rather than pair her up with anyone else.

Trans issues require a more intricate story to tell, many adults don't fully understand it so to cover it in a good way for children would be difficult. I imagine Disney won't touch that hot button because they'll risk upsetting both sides of the coin. People will be mad that they included trans issues and others will be made if it's not done in the way they want it.

Having a slutty prince or princess is really not needed tbh.

montblanc · 07-04-2018, 08:35 PM

i don't have a problem with people sleeping around (while practicing safe sex) but i would still consider that as more of an adult topic so i don't think we need a promiscuous prince/princess

Ammi · 08-04-2018, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Homosexuality isn't something that should be age restricted, it's not inherently dirtier than a hetero relationship and it's not going to be in any way shape or form more explicit. You can tell a chaste love story between two people of the same sex just as well as you can tell a chaste hetero love story.

I'd be all for a gay princess but I don't think it's too likely to ever happen especially now Hollywood is learning that diversity doesn't always equal profits. At best we might get a nod to it in Frozen 2 but Elsa will never have a girlfriend, they'll just keep her on her own rather than pair her up with anyone else.

Trans issues require a more intricate story to tell, many adults don't fully understand it so to cover it in a good way for children would be difficult. I imagine Disney won't touch that hot button because they'll risk upsetting both sides of the coin. People will be mad that they included trans issues and others will be made if it's not done in the way they want it.

Having a slutty prince or princess is really not needed tbh.

...yeah really what Dezzy has said with this...sexuality isn’t an age restricted thing...the age restriction I think...is more ..(..depending on age..)...the level of a child’s understanding, which would be the same no matter what the sexuality involved...small children ‘live’ gay relationships from a very young age...it might be their own parents, another child or children at pre-school or younger primary school etc...so I think ‘early introduction’ is a good thing ...especially to prevent any prejudice and intolerance etc...’my daddy’ and ‘my papa’ for instance are just as easily explained as ‘my mommy’ and ‘my daddy’....because it’s the concept of a family unit that’s being explained...as with single parents as well...Children live different family unit dynamics, from birth they live them...so I think seeing what they live or what their friend lives ...or someone they know etc..in something like Disney..?...would be a good thing, I think....

arista · 07-04-2018, 11:54 AM

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Oliver_W · 07-04-2018, 12:25 PM

I wonder if Hollywood would be able to treat it just like another romance, or if they'd act like it's a big deal. Being LGBT is inconsequential, and if the matter is shown in a film it should be treated as such.

Just as long as a creepy weirdo like the presenter of Queer Kid Stuff on youtube isn't consulted, it could be okay.

Withano · 07-04-2018, 05:47 PM

Wasnt the character from inside out bigender, or gender-fluid or something?

Withano · 07-04-2018, 05:54 PM

Rileys Mom had all-female emotions

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Rileys dad had all-male emotions

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Riley had both genders

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I’m pretty sure Disney has been trying to get these more taboo things in for years now

Jamie89 · 07-04-2018, 06:10 PM

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Rileys Mom had all-female emotions

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Rileys dad had all-male emotions

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Riley had both genders

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I’m pretty sure Disney has been trying to get these more taboo things in for years now

Riley's a unisex name too so all of that probably isn't a coincidence. I haven't actually seen it though.

Withano · 07-04-2018, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89

Riley's a unisex name too so all of that probably isn't a coincidence. I haven't actually seen it though.

I think its overrated tbh, but yeh, seems deliberate.

Crimson Dynamo · 07-04-2018, 05:57 PM

its a no from me

ethanjames · 07-04-2018, 06:55 PM

ofc I think if I grew up knowing what homosexuality was through film (especially Disney films as I was obsessed with them as a kid)it would take me a lot less time to accept who I was. I don't think people understand how much a media presence can help a child understand differences. theres a reason kids as a whole are far more accepting of homosexuality than they were a few years ago as they are told its okay. its better for it to be explained than be ignored right off

Jamie89 · 07-04-2018, 07:02 PM

The only reason I can think of why it would be inappropriate is if people think it would encourage kids to be gay, but surely in 2018 we've moved on from the 'being gay is a choice' way of thinking?

jaxie · 08-04-2018, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89

The only reason I can think of why it would be inappropriate is if people think it would encourage kids to be gay, but surely in 2018 we've moved on from the 'being gay is a choice' way of thinking?

As was said by someone else I think there are parents who would find it difficult to explain topics relating to sexuality to a five year old. It's not necessarily an implication they'd feel the relationship inappropriate more that many parents aren't ready to talk about relationships of any kind with very young children.

Oliver_W · 08-04-2018, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxie

As was said by someone else I think there are parents who would find it difficult to explain topics relating to sexuality to a five year old. It's not necessarily an implication they'd feel the relationship inappropriate more that many parents aren't ready to talk about relationships of any kind with very young children.

Rather than talking about relationships, they should make it about families - "some children have two mummies, and some have two daddies".

jaxie · 08-04-2018, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Rather than talking about relationships, they should make it about families - "some children have two mummies, and some have two daddies".

That is kind of talking about relationships though.

Oliver_W · 08-04-2018, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxie

That is kind of talking about relationships though.

It's all about the framing. "Timmy from playgroup has two dads", that places it in a context they can relate more to, than "the man down the road fancies other men"

Tom4784 · 09-04-2018, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie

As was said by someone else I think there are parents who would find it difficult to explain topics relating to sexuality to a five year old. It's not necessarily an implication they'd feel the relationship inappropriate more that many parents aren't ready to talk about relationships of any kind with very young children.

It wouldn't be any different to any Disney film that ends with a prince and princess getting together though, it's not going to confuse them, it'll normalise the fact that some people are gay.