[Denver]

It is not religion it us culture

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Adam.

It is not religion it us culture

It is perverted opportunism facilitated by an archaic system which was founded by perverts for perverts to boost recruitment to their cause.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

It is perverted opportunism facilitated by an archaic system which was founded by perverts for perverts to boost recruitment to their cause.

We get it you dislike Catholics! jeeze....

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

We get it you dislike Catholics! jeeze....

Where in the world does the Catholic Church advocate old perverts marrying children or allow Children to be married?

Poor joke.

Try another religion.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Where in the world does the Catholic Church advocate old perverts marrying children or allow Children to be married?

Poor joke.

Try another religion.

Oh I thought the discussion was focused on confirmation where little girls dream of becoming brides of Christ... bit creepy that.

[Nicky91]

every culture has it's different traditions, what we might find weird is normal for them and what is normal for us, they might find weird

[Livia]

Catholics don't cut the clitoris off of girl children, without anesthetic and with unsterilised equipemt, and sew up their vagina so there's just enough room to bleed through. Neither do they force young girls to marry old men. I can't see any similarity between the religions that encourage this and Christianity in any form. Okay, there are perverts who've assaulted kids but they are not the "norm" in Christianity. Abusing young girls though IS the norm in some other religions.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Catholics don't cut the clitoris off of girl children, without anesthetic and with unsterilised equipemt, and sew up their vagina so there's just enough room to bleed through. Neither do they don't force young girls to marry old men. I can't see any similarity between the religions that encourage this and Christianity in any form. Okay, there are perverts who've assaulted kids but they are not the "norm" in Christianity. Abusing young girls though IS the norm in some other religions.

FGM is practiced among some adherents of the Muslim, Christian, and Jewish faiths. FGM is also practiced among some animists, who believe in the existence of individual spirits and supernatural forces. It is erroneously linked to religion, is not particular to any religious faith, and predates Christianity and Islam.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2010/06/16/...tal-mutilation
Terrible practice but not specific to a religion more cultures

[Livia]

So this isn't about Muslims anymore? Why not? Why, whenever there's a discussion about their appalling treatment of young women and girls, does it always have to turn into a case of whataboutery?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

So this isn't about Muslims anymore? Why not? Why, whenever there's a discussion about their appalling treatment of young women and girls, does it always have to turn into a case of whataboutery?

It never was was it?.... :/

[Maru]

Sex/consent is legalized at younger ages in different countries because a childs maturity does vary significantly by culture. So getting married younger than we are accustomed to does happen outside of doctrinal/traditional confines... I dont agree with kids marrying early in our culture, for obvious reasond, but there are some parts of the US in recent times that ppl may have married early for different reasons... my grandmother decided to get married at the age of 14. Not forced or anything, it was just happened in the culture she grew up. She and my grandfather used to live in the Hill Country high up in the mountains... you wouldn't know it talking to her, that she married so young. She is also quite mature... she taught herself how to drive, did a lot of firsts on her own and was fairly independent... it's just a different mindset, a different culture, post-Depression era thinking where the family looked after each other, and she and her sisters were tight-knit and looked after each other despite moving away and living at different ends of the US later on in life... my grandfather too, was a succesful mechanic running his own shop despite the fact he never learned to read..

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Maru

Sex/consent is legalized at younger ages in different countries because a childs maturity does vary significantly by culture. So getting married younger than we are accustomed to does happen outside of doctrinal/traditional confines... I dont agree with kids marrying early in our culture, for obvious reasond, but there are some parts of the US in recent times that ppl may have married early for different reasons... my grandmother decided to get married at the age of 14. Not forced or anything, it was just happened in the culture she grew up. She and my grandfather used to live in the Hill Country high up in the mountains... you wouldn't know it talking to her, that she married so young. She is also quite mature... she taught herself how to drive, did a lot of firsts on her own and was fairly independent... it's just a different mindset, a different culture, post-Depression era thinking where the family looked after each other, and she and her sisters were tight-knit and looked after each other despite moving away and living at different ends of the US later on in life... my grandfather too, was a succesful mechanic running his own shop despite the fact he never learned to read..

Sorry I don't buy that at all, in this country children matured quicker as they were expected to work and/or run the home, we legislated against that a century ago.

Just because some cultures still exploit young people does not make it right, physically bodies can be unable to take the outcome of marriage at a young age, not to be too graphic it leads to severe complications and injury.

My heart goes out to your grandmother who sounds a wonderful woman, however I can't condone what you suggest was her decision yes she lived a good life however that was in spite of the start she had, not because of it.

I should like to ask her and other child brides if they had the choice then to wait as we do now would they?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Sorry I don't buy that at all, in this country children matured quicker as they were expected to work and/or run the home, we legislated against that a century ago.

Just because some cultures still exploit young people does not make it right, physically bodies can be unable to take the outcome of marriage at a young age, not to be too graphic it leads to severe complications and injury.

My heart goes out to your grandmother who sounds a wonderful woman, however I can't condone what you suggest was her decision yes she lived a good life however that was in spite of the start she had, not because of it.

I should like to ask her and other child brides if they had the choice then to wait as we do now would they?

That's the twisted thing about it all ,these girls bodies HAVEN'T developed propely , otherwise so many wouldn't be dying in child birth after perverts have used them .

Girls as young as 9 !!! Are being exploited in these places .