[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

We changed our minds, we want a cross dressing Polish man squirting a Welsh man with a water pistol whilst screaming daddy.

Sounds too good to be true

[Twosugars]

these things can't be forced, clearly they're not interested in talking about it
unless lewis wants to preach and tell them what to think
in the meantime

Daddy!

[Ant.]

in fact, in that same thread, you got one person saying they want less intelligent people and someone wanting both intelligent and unintelligent people

[Ant.]

like at the end of the day, Big Brother fans remember Kinga using a wine bottle to masturbate, not Ann Widdecombe sharing her political views

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

like at the end of the day, Big Brother fans remember Kinga using a wine bottle to masturbate, not Ann Widdecombe sharing her political views

I don't know. I liked Ann. Shame she didn't win imo.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

I don't know. I liked Ann. Shame she didn't win imo.

Oh I did enjoy her at times but if I have to think of a moment about her, I think of her shouting "LEFT!!! LEFT!!! LEFT!!!" and not... well I actually can't think of any views she discussed and that was the prime focus of the first four days before the men went in

[deanmontague]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

I don't know. I liked Ann. Shame she didn't win imo.

oh my god her winning would have been equivalent to trump gaining power (dramatised slightly).

im soooo glad i wasn't on these forums for that season - i would have had a a stroke argueing with people over her

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by deanmontague

oh my god her winning would have been equivalent to trump gaining power (dramatised slightly).

A great victory for the Western world then.

[Elliot]

It’s not even about people having these conversations it’s how Lewis thinks he’s above it all since he’s obviously going for that kind of aesthetic when in reality he’s just as petty and horny, if not more so, than the simpletons he mocks on his high horse. He’s never been aired having these conversations anyway, and mocked Kay for her passionate beliefs

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by Elliot

It’s not even about people having these conversations it’s how Lewis thinks he’s above it all since he’s obviously going for that kind of aesthetic when in reality he’s just as petty and horny, if not more so, than the simpletons he mocks on his high horse. He’s never been aired having these conversations anyway, and mocked Kay for her passionate beliefs

Kay thought she was too good for the house, she thought she was perfect but naturally she wasnt and isnt.

[Rob!]

Wow we can’t wait for Doctor Who series 54 to open with the historical and heartbreaking episode “Lewis.”

[lewys]

I want to see them guess who the public voted the ugliest nastiest fattest housemate who doesn’t shower NOT Lewis pretending to be woke

[Ammi]

...Serious Debates v chat and games/the chat threads..?....

[Cherie]

You have to laugh, given he tried for the showmance with the girl that he had no deep connection with what a hypocrite he is

[Kazanne]

And why not discuss the important things in life? these are the best conversations that I like, nothing at all wrong with talking about serious stuff,we need more of it.That's probably why I like Lewis ,as endless smutty talk I find childish and some of it gross and quite telling of some of the housemates personalities, everything in moderation.

[joeysteele]

He used them as examples of other things to discuss.
He added too, their life stories and life in general.

He also never inferred stopping talking about sexual matters, just not near doing so all the time.

Anyone else saying that would be getting praise, he's presented as dictating.

It was a game with that box they were doing.
It was nice to see he got a positive response to it, save for Tomasz.

[MB.]

Let's talk about politics, homeless people and suicide, baby! Let's talk about you and me! Let's talk about all the good things and the bad things that may be!

[Vanessa]

I also love a deep, serious conversation. Give me that over the sex talk any day of the week.

[bots]

People are who they are, they talk about what they want. What they talk about and how they behave determines how the public and the housemates perceive them and they are judged accordingly. Why should that be changed? To change it creates false impressions about the people.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

People are who they are, they talk about what they want. What they talk about and how they behave determines how the public and the housemates perceive them and they are judged accordingly. Why should that be changed? To change it creates false impressions about the people.

Exactly

[user104658]

TBH I'd like to talk to him about these things to see if he actually has any depth or insight, or if (as I strongly suspect) his desire to portray himself as deep and thoughtful is mostly window-dressing.

He's a confusing character at the moment because he waxes lyrical about being a deep thinker and philosophical, but to be honest, his interactions with others are severely lacking in any amount of deeper thought or understanding. He's intolerant of people and unwilling to even look for their depth unless it's offered to him on a platter... which is profoundly unphilosophical.

I mean yes we can all have our off days like that, and it's not an indicator of overall character, but we've seen him for 6 weeks now and I've rarely (if ever) seen him make much of an effort to examine the world from any perspective other than his own. So what exactly is it that he wants to talk about? . Perhaps he wants to preach, which isn't really the same thing.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

TBH I'd like to talk to him about these things to see if he actually has any depth or insight, or if (as I strongly suspect) his desire to portray himself as deep and thoughtful is mostly window-dressing.

He's a confusing character at the moment because he waxes lyrical about being a deep thinker and philosophical, but to be honest, his interactions with others are severely lacking in any amount of deeper thought or understanding. He's intolerant of people and unwilling to even look for their depth unless it's offered to him on a platter... which is profoundly unphilosophical.

I mean yes we can all have our off days like that, and it's not an indicator of overall character, but we've seen him for 6 weeks now and I've rarely (if ever) seen him make much of an effort to examine the world from any perspective other than his own. So what exactly is it that he wants to talk about? . Perhaps he wants to preach, which isn't really the same thing.

You are a loveable dick to be sure

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You are a loveable dick to be sure

I've been saying it for years

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I've been saying it for years

if you didn't hide the loveable so well

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

TBH I'd like to talk to him about these things to see if he actually has any depth or insight, or if (as I strongly suspect) his desire to portray himself as deep and thoughtful is mostly window-dressing.

He's a confusing character at the moment because he waxes lyrical about being a deep thinker and philosophical, but to be honest, his interactions with others are severely lacking in any amount of deeper thought or understanding. He's intolerant of people and unwilling to even look for their depth unless it's offered to him on a platter... which is profoundly unphilosophical.

I mean yes we can all have our off days like that, and it's not an indicator of overall character, but we've seen him for 6 weeks now and I've rarely (if ever) seen him make much of an effort to examine the world from any perspective other than his own. So what exactly is it that he wants to talk about? . Perhaps he wants to preach, which isn't really the same thing.

I would add (to myself ) though that I think he does VERY MUCH WANT to be that person, which is maybe why he's so keen to go there, but... I think he needs to do a lot more work on himself and an absolute boatload of introspection before he's really able to operate on that level in any way. And currently, his own mind is far too stormy for him to even do that. In fact I think he'll end up doing himself some real emotional harm if he stares into the abyss for too long before he's sorted out his own mental landscape. Basically I think he's a little boy playing with fire (excuse the pun ) right now.