[Vanessa]

I do think that he should stop drinking. It doesn't agree with him. When he doesn't drink he's lovely.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I do think that he should stop drinking. It doesn't agree with him. When he doesn't drink he's lovely.

Part time fan ? you only support him when hes not had a drink ?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Part time fan ? you only support him when hes not had a drink ?

No, i always support him. I just think drink doesn't agree with him. I still think he's an amazing housemate.

[Beastie]

Good news is.. We will never have to see him again!

[Yaki da]

Hold your head up. But keep your mouth closed.

[Robodog]

Big Brother: Conor makes rape comments with serious intention to cause offensive; stays in house, leaves with 50k.

Also Big Brother: Lewis uses 'wrong words' in play with no offensive intention; ejected from house.


When there is greater punishment for using 'forbidden words' in jest than there is for making genuine nasty comments with 'bad intention', then we know we have taken a wrong turn.


I love BB, but if it is going to be used like this: as a public 'example' to promote wrongthink/thought crime/word fascism - then it may as well die.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Big Brother: Conor makes rape comments with serious intention to cause offensive; stays in house, leaves with 50k.

Also Big Brother: Lewis uses 'wrong words' in play with no offensive intention; ejected from house.


When there is greater punishment for using 'forbidden words' in jest than there is for making genuine nasty comments with 'bad intention', then we know we have taken a wrong turn.


I love BB, but if it is going to be used like this: as a public 'example' to promote wrongthink/thought crime/word fascism - then it may as well die.

Totally agree ,I would like to see the context of what these " words" were used in and if he was provoked to use them ,Either way Freedom of speech should never be punished

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Big Brother: Conor makes rape comments with serious intention to cause offensive; stays in house, leaves with 50k.

Also Big Brother: Lewis uses 'wrong words' in play with no offensive intention; ejected from house.


When there is greater punishment for using 'forbidden words' in jest than there is for making genuine nasty comments with 'bad intention', then we know we have taken a wrong turn.


I love BB, but if it is going to be used like this: as a public 'example' to promote wrongthink/thought crime/word fascism - then it may as well die.

You are right the evil of backdoor censorship (political correctness) has grown stronger and more extreme over many years. Over censorship makes real realty tv impossible to make.

In its present mutilated over censored form by channel 5 then yes it may just as well discontinue sadly.

If say netflix take it on and cave in to political correctnes censorship the format will still be in a state of ruin by babies that take offence at anything and evertything

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by bananarama

You are right the evil of backdoor censorship (political correctness) has grown stronger and more extreme over many years. Over censorship makes real realty tv impossible to make.

In its present mutilated over censored form by channel 5 then yes it may just as well discontinue sadly.

If say netflix take it on and cave in to political correctnes censorship the format will still be in a state of ruin by babies that take offence at anything and evertything

It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it
It ain't what you say, it's the way that you say it
That's what gets results

Sorry, I'll get me coat

[bots]

im glad he is no longer on our screens. Disliked him from day 2

[user104658]

I'm reserving judgement until I see what was said and what the context was. If they choose not to show it, then I call BS.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm reserving judgement until I see what was said and what the context was. If they choose not to show it, then I call BS.

Pretty much this.

I findit interesting that some are defending him without actually having a clue what the removal was for. I really can't see it being just randomly using the word fag in a convo with 2 gay friends..there has to be more to it than that. And BB would not randomly sabotage the guy they had set up for the win..they will lose a fair bit in vote money because of this.

[Cherie]

Looking at the DR clip of his apology again its very rehearsed

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Looking at the DR clip of his apology again its very rehearsed

it is very rehearsed and designed to obfuscate the specific reason for removal. We won't be shown it.

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Looking at the DR clip of his apology again its very rehearsed

We never know with these things whether they have been brought in before but tbh I would think it would have to come naturally as he was taken out there and then. They wouldnt have given him time to think about it..who knows though. Maybe just a portion of the chat?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jules82

We never know with these things whether they have been brought in before but tbh I would think it would have to come naturally as he was taken out there and then. They wouldnt have given him time to think about it..who knows though. Maybe just a portion of the chat?

They would normally say...at 11.58 last night in a convo with x.....

also he came in with his head down.... if it were a slip of the tongue and he had some alcohol on board would he remember it...a fuss must have been made at the time, it looked to me like he had already been in...and they tried to keep him but had to eject him in the end

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Pretty much this.

I findit interesting that some are defending him without actually having a clue what the removal was for. I really can't see it being just randomly using the word fag in a convo with 2 gay friends..there has to be more to it than that. And BB would not randomly sabotage the guy they had set up for the win..they will lose a fair bit in vote money because of this.

As I am with people condemning him without know what was said

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

As I am with people condemning him without know what was said

Well I am not condemning him, just saying its not likely that he would be removed for nothing, for a 'slip of the tongue' as he claimed. Not when they know how much he would bring in and all 'twists' have been to keep him for the vote to win lines

[bots]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Pretty much this.

I findit interesting that some are defending him without actually having a clue what the removal was for. I really can't see it being just randomly using the word fag in a convo with 2 gay friends..there has to be more to it than that. And BB would not randomly sabotage the guy they had set up for the win..they will lose a fair bit in vote money because of this.

Some people are saying that he may have broken broadcasting guidelines and so Channel 5 told the producers to get rid, but that doesn't ring true to me, because they are in control of what they broadcast and dont need to air a conversation they don't want to ... So while something may not be shown on the TV for that reason, it isnt grounds for ejection.

[chuff me dizzy]

Im sure no matter what he's said I will not feel nowhere near as offended as Ive felt listening to Tomasz's filth talk on anal,dick and fisting for 7 weeks

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Pretty much this.

I findit interesting that some are defending him without actually having a clue what the removal was for. I really can't see it being just randomly using the word fag in a convo with 2 gay friends..there has to be more to it than that. And BB would not randomly sabotage the guy they had set up for the win..they will lose a fair bit in vote money because of this.

We don't know, but what are the options?

Apart from making serious and genuine threats to people or attempting to incite actual violence towards them - what could he actually say that would deserve his removal?

Unless he suddenly went mad, i can't see him threatening other HMs with actual violence.


My money says he went due to PC fascism.

[Epic.]

We don't even know what he said yet, so it's not really fair to say that the removal is unfair or fair.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Epic.

We don't even know what he said yet, so it's not really fair to say that the removal is unfair or fair.

BB have said it was for words not action

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

BB have said it was for words not action

Words which he accepted and said that he didnt feel guilty for as they were not said to hurt anyone intentionally. He then apologised and said that he must accept his punishment. Well done lad, you didnt deny....

Maybe for him, it will be better that he didnt win the money but the fact that he has won so many supporters will be a far greater asset than anything else. Hopefully it will encourage him to go further in his feelings and to be a success in life. Those who stated this in the forum maybe right, fate has a way of choosing what is good and what is wrong for us so, onward and upward as they say go on and win the day.

In the meantime CAMERON to win, hopefully Brooke wont be the first out but I feel that her and Sian will go on Friday, with the VTYS they have a chance to stay though. I think it will be between Cameron, Akeem and Cian.

Lewis will and still is my first choice but fate has said differently. BB will lose more than ever support over this fiasco along with Channel 5.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Epic.

We don't even know what he said yet, so it's not really fair to say that the removal is unfair or fair.

I didn't say it was unfair,but comparing what Roxanne did,we are all assuming it must be worse ,what really could be worse he didn't even get a warning.