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Mokka · 24-12-2018, 04:40 AM

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LMAO. It’s not even that deep but I just feel the point might be being missed.

4 July isn’t even celebrated in the UK, just so you know. Like it or not Christmas Day is one of the more universally acknowledged holidays worldwide. The world doesn’t start and end in the US or Canada.

By world wide you are entirely focusing on Western or Christian countries and that is my point... the world doesn't start or end in the UK, Canada, or the US... and the cultures of all over the world are here in our countries... why do we need people who aren't Chriatian to stop everything to observe our traditions when we don't do the same for theirs. All we can do is support each other if following our own beliefs. It's why when a Muslim holiday occurs, I don't schedule my Muslim employees on the day(s) they observe their traditions... but we don't close the business for them.

Amy Jade · 24-12-2018, 04:41 AM

I am working Christmas day and get paid double and only work between 7 and 12 in the morning. I am a home care assistant so it's part of my job.

My friend works in co-op and it's one thats co-op named but ran by somebody else and they are open christmas day and their manager offered them double time and an extra day paid holiday. Nobody wanted it and so the owner is running it, which in my view is how it should work, i.e. optional.

smudgie · 24-12-2018, 09:30 AM

You can’t shut everything down for a day.
Most places that can shut will.
Large supermarkets etc.
A lot of shift workers etc used to work it between them, if you had kids you would swap with the younger ones, have Xmas day off and maybe do the night shift, then on New Year’s Eve let the younger ones without kids off to celebrate.

Underscore · 24-12-2018, 09:32 AM

Not everyone celebrates Christmas. Let people who don't celebrate work Xmas then take other holidays such as Eid off

Oliver_W · 24-12-2018, 11:46 AM

I always try to avoid the shops on Eve and Boxing Day, it's just not fair on the poor kids who have to work there.

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Originally Posted by Mokka

. I had to explain stockings to several people this year.

Do you work in a mosque or something? Or maybe an outreach program for neglected children?

Mokka · 24-12-2018, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I always try to avoid the shops on Eve and Boxing Day, it's just not fair on the poor kids who have to work there.

Do you work in a mosque or something? Or maybe an outreach program for neglected children?

Nope

Twosugars · 24-12-2018, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mokka

By world wide you are entirely focusing on Western or Christian countries and that is my point... the world doesn't start or end in the UK, Canada, or the US... and the cultures of all over the world are here in our countries... why do we need people who aren't Chriatian to stop everything to observe our traditions when we don't do the same for theirs. All we can do is support each other if following our own beliefs. It's why when a Muslim holiday occurs, I don't schedule my Muslim employees on the day(s) they observe their traditions... but we don't close the business for them.

but when you go and live in their countries you are forced to obey their religious holiday schedule
I like our Xmas/Easter days off, it's part of our tradition
don't see any need to bend backwards to deny our heritage

armand.kay · 24-12-2018, 12:22 PM

I really don't mind doing a shift on xmas morning because I like the extra pay. so don't stop my bag with your sympathy

Beso · 24-12-2018, 12:33 PM

Do we all believe in God now?

Twosugars · 24-12-2018, 01:12 PM

In these secular times, Christmas has been wisely rebranded as a family festival, getting together etc.
I don't believe getting rid of Christmas, its symbology or days off is a good idea. Though the West is largely secular now, Christianity is part of our tradition.
Denying our traditions to accomodate others is not the way to do it. Instead we should make room for their traditions where applicable. So for example employment law that allows them take time off for their religious holidays and allowing them space to celebrate in public arena.
Golders Green in London is a good example. Home to a large Jewish community, it has a large menora (Hannukah candelabra) next to a large Christmas tree in December.
In the past some miguided local councils tried to secularize Christmas and it didn't go down well. Such ideas only lead to resentment of immigrants and their traditions and fuels extreme right.
Live (Christmas) and let live (other religious festivals).

Mokka · 24-12-2018, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

but when you go and live in their countries you are forced to obey their religious holiday schedule
I like our Xmas/Easter days off, it's part of our tradition
don't see any need to bend backwards to deny our heritage

I'm not saying cancel Xmas and Easter and time off... I'm saying everything doesnt need to grind to a halt for one religion... let others who don't observe it continue on with their lives. That isn't bending backwards and it isn't denying anything.