[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its just not a thing, sorry

So only brown foreign people can be terrorists in your eyes?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

So only brown foreign people can be terrorists in your eyes?

well as someone here who actually lived through the troubles that is a pretty silly thing to post

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Liam-

So only brown foreign people can be terrorists in your eyes?

I bet you think only white men can be right wing.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its just not a thing, sorry

And you're perfectly entitled to be wrong and uninformed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

And you're perfectly entitled to be wrong and uninformed.

or right

as usual

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

or right

as usual

Nope, just uninformed.

You do not know more than security experts from across the world who acknowledge right wing terrorism as a real and present threat. You're entitled to believe it doesn't exist but that doesn't make your opinion correct, it makes it uninformed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nope, just uninformed.

You do not know more than security experts from across the world who acknowledge right wing terrorism as a real and present threat. You're entitled to believe it doesn't exist but that doesn't make your opinion correct, it makes it uninformed.

not "security experts"

[Tom4784]

It's remarkable and grotesque that the Coast Guard story hasn't really gained traction.

Right Wing terrorism is a growing threat, it's the most prominent form of terrorism after Islamic terrorism and it's something that should be spoken about when it's not really discussed all that much.

[Vicky.]

Antifa, would be far left terrorism looks like IMO. Terrorism whilst saying they are doing the right thing and helping people. Because they bombed a building full of Tories or something..for example.

Its not a 'both sides are as bad as each other' thing. But nor is Islamic terorrism and far right terrorism (yet, I suspect if we don't do brexit in March then this will rise quickly)

I agree there is not modern far left the same as far right, but I do think this is because the far left is just emerging recently, where the far right have been 'there' for quite some time. I genuinely dread to think what it will be like in say 10 years time.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Antifa, would be far left terrorism looks like IMO. Terrorism whilst saying they are doing the right thing and helping people. Because they bombed a building full of Tories or something..for example.

Its not a 'both sides are as bad as each other' thing. But nor is Islamic terorrism and far right terrorism (yet, I suspect if we don't do brexit in March then this will rise quickly)

I agree there is not modern far left the same as far right, but I do think this is because the far left is just emerging recently, where the far right have been 'there' for quite some time. I genuinely dread to think what it will be like in say 10 years time.

I get the Antifa point. I don't personally agree with them on everything, especially their direct action, but they were set up as a direct response to the rise in fascism and white supremacy, and to counteract it.

Let me put it like this, if the worrying rise on the right wasn't happening, would Antifa even be in our consciousness? I think it's easy to forget that Antifa rose to prominence again, recently in the US where KKK and white nationalist rallies are constant and deadly. I agree though, there are probably folks within the movement itching far an even more direct response.


Maybe you'll be right about the far left rising, but all the prominent folks that are currently made out to be communists by the right, are only really interested in providing healthcare, education, work opportunities, and an end to social inequality. It's not impossible, because obviously the original aims of Bolshevism were noble too, before being bastardised, but it's a difficult road that travels from Alexandria Ocassio-Cortez (the current right wing boogeywoman) to far left extremism in the same way that it's a pretty short road from right wing politicians to far right extremism.

Another problem I have with the labelling of far left in the UK, is that we haven't even had a left wing party in this country since the inception of "new labour", so having a far left rise without even a left is a difficult thing to envisage.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think we should be more worried about the dramatic and undeniable rise of Anti-Semitism in our own Labour Party

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think we should be more worried about the dramatic and undeniable rise of Anti-Semitism in our own Labour Party

Not may people are bothered by that, though. It's not fashionable, left of centre. Nor right of centre, thinking about it...

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think we should be more worried about the dramatic and undeniable rise of Anti-Semitism in our own Labour Party

Because we can only focus on one issue at a time?

[Crimson Dynamo]

What are the numbers then to get back on topic?

yearly deaths etc?

to give us an idea of scale

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What are the numbers then to get back on topic?

yearly deaths etc?

to give us an idea of scale

Islamist terrorist attacks in the UK since 2000 where people have died:
2005 7/7 London bombings. Dead: 52
2013 Lee Rigby. Dead: 1
2017 Westminster attack. Dead: 5
2017 Manchester Arena bomb. Dead: 22
2017 London Bridge attack. Dead: 8
Total dead: 88

Far Right terrorist attacks in the UK since 2000 where people have died:
2013 Pavlo Lapshyn fatally stabbed Mohammed Saleem. Dead: 1
2016 Jo Cox shot. Dead: 1
2017 Finsbury Park attack. Dead: 1
Total dead: 3

[Twosugars]

Thank you Slim Reaper, a much needed thread.

Wonder what Breitbart makes of this troubling phenomenon.

[Withano]

Get rid of all right wing people and then there’d be no issue

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Get rid of all right wing people and then there’d be no issue

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by MTVN

People on here explicitely identify themselves as far right?

Some defend every action Trump takes, defend Robinson, praise alt right people like Milo, Bannon etc. That's pretty far right, right?

[Livia]

No one on here is on the far Right. There are some people on here way over to the Left, but not any far Left, I would say. Any kind of an extremist is a threat and I worry that people are happy to hang labels on other people on the basis of some stuff they may have seen on a Big Brother forum.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

No one on here is on the far Right. There are some people on here way over to the Left, but not any far Left, I would say. Any kind of an extremist is a threat and I worry that people are happy to hang labels on other people on the basis of some stuff they may have seen on a Big Brother forum.

Regardless, it is about time we debate right wing terrorism alongside all others, I'm sure you'll agree. This thread is much needed.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Regardless, it is about time we debate right wing terrorism alongside all others, I'm sure you'll agree. This thread is much needed.

when you say its about time, whats stopped you before?

[The Slim Reaper]

Thread isn't about other members, but it's now on the verge of becoming messy. If anyone wants to talk about others, including me, then take it to PM's?

[Crimson Dynamo]

as usual the baiters and the haters are here with the usual insinuation but no one has the balls to name a name in case they get a wee infraction

what a surprise, lol

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

as usual the baiters and the haters are here with the usual insinuation but no one has the balls to name a name in case they get a wee infraction

what a surprise, lol

Livia said that she doesn’t believe anyone on here that was far right and I simply said that I disagree with her. That’s how discussion works, isn’t it