[Smithy]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

Corbyn is the reason Boris is in power. Corbyn is so disliked by the nation that he handed a landslide over, well done Corbyn

Boris is in power because the 90% of the mainstream media is run by right wing cocks who benefit with Boris in power so they ran the biggest political smear campaign in decades to ensure Boris won

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Boris is in power because the 90% of the mainstream media is run by right wing cocks who benefit with Boris in power so they ran the biggest political smear campaign in decades to ensure Boris won

We love left wing media sources

I don’t believe every thing I read, I don’t think this is true, mainstream media seems more in favour of left wing (aka BBC) to me

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Boris is in power because the 90% of the mainstream media is run by right wing cocks who benefit with Boris in power so they ran the biggest political smear campaign in decades to ensure Boris won

Yep... lies, lies and damn lies. Tory spin and slurs as you say.
One day Corbyn will be totally vindicated as the last hope for this country.

Never trust a tory... why does that keep getting forgotten?

[caprimint]

[Cherie]

I do agree that Labour handed the Tories victory by not replacing Corbyn as leader before the GE ...he did well in the 2017 election as he was up against an already unpopular May and her even more unpopular ideas for paying for care, but he was never going to win against Bojo

[Liam-]

You can tell the bbc isn’t biased because both sides accuse it of being biased

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Liam-

You can tell the bbc isn’t biased because both sides accuse it of being biased

Don't agree with this. The BBC did used to have a left wing slant, but that is long gone as it's basically run by old etonian schoolmates of the cabinet. Laura Kuenssberg attacks labour, does cosy chats with boris just acts as a stenographer for the tory party.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Don't agree with this. The BBC did used to have a left wing slant, but that is long gone as it's basically run by old etonian schoolmates of the cabinet. Laura Kuenssberg attacks labour, does cosy chats with boris just acts as a stenographer for the tory party.

They have biased individual reporters absolutely and they should be held to stricter impartiality rules, but in general I think the organisation is realistically balanced, even though the newly appointed head is someone who ran to be an mp as a Tory

[Liam-]

Although saying that, they did say that pointing out lies told by the government would ‘undermine public confidence in democracy’ so yeah, **** em, bunch of tories

[arista]

Liam Corbyn may have been right on this,
but on other things like the Russian poison attack
he was very wrong.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Liam Corbyn may have been right on this,
but on other things like the Russian poison attack
he was very wrong.

What do you think about the NHS being on the table?

[joeysteele]

Well I have to say it's never the majority of public swayed by either the deceit of this particular government or by the media.

Yes Johnson sits with an 80 overall majority but with between 43 to 44% only of the actual votes cast.
That means over 56% voted against him.

Labour and the Lib Dem votes, equalled the Tory vote.

That's an even less mandate considering the numbers eligible to vote too.

However, the splintering of a more pro EU or EU deal vote between 5 parties.
Left a near clean run for Johnson and his so called, ( not now so however), oven ready leaving EU deal.

All else, outside of brexit sadly fell by the wayside.
Labour's my party but it came across as desperate in promising all sorts, even adding things during the campaign.
Had they stressed their plans were for a 10 year plan period, that would have had more credibility.
Although at best, really all I could see was another hung parliament.

The NHS sadly, got lost in the election debate as not enough were listening to the warnings in a reasoned way.
Now we are seeing possibly the start of a new agenda, showing the real thinking of this dangerous Con party as to the NHS.

Nothing we can do now for over 4 years.
So it seems that 43+% will get ALL they wanted.
While over 56% will be dismissed and get the worst they feared would come.

Those percentages should worry all voters because whatever it is, it's not now in a multi party setting, real democracy.
It was in the past with fewer parties, not now.

Where something like a quarter of voters that voted, don't now vote for either main party.

Elections shouldn't be in any possible way able to be won with anything like an 80 overall majority for one party.
By ANY Party that gets so far under 50% of even just the votes cast.
Never mind the whole electorate eligible to vote.

[bots]

i think if the NHS is on the table, we should put the cabinet on the table too. let the surgeons do a bit of corrective surgery

[user104658]

The NHS should be ringfenced and protected with no questions asked. Even if it needs drastic reform, that should be happening in a safe "bubble" of funding that acknowledges that no reform will involve dismantling or outsourcing. It shouldn't be a party politics issue, if this pandemic has shown anything it's that GLOBAL universal healthcare is only going to become increasingly important.

[arista]

[armand.kay]

oh no! i’ll go out and clap now that should fix it xx

[Brother Leon]

This shouldn’t be news to anyone at all. And the same that voted for this would have been the ones doing clap for NHS. Remember when people thought Boris becoming sick would suddenly make him a human being? Give me a break.

[arista]

For Liam and Slim
A Remix Image.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

They’ve voted to not protect the NHS from being owned and controlled by overseas influences, the NHS is on the table like we were all told it would be.

But Boris is fun though so who cares.

Shock horror who'd have thought it , but no matter what Corbyn was hated and never had a chance. And labour will continue to be demonised .

As the Tories run this country down the toilet .

[MTVN]

A lot being assumed from the government not supporting an opposition amendment to their motion, maybe better to wait and see what actually happens, its not the case that x must happen because y didn't happen. This bill in question was about ensuring trading arrangements that have already been agreed continue after Brexit, it's nothing to do with future trade arrangements with the US or anyone else

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MTVN

A lot being assumed from the government not supporting an opposition amendment to their motion, maybe better to wait and see what actually happens, its not the case that x must happen because y didn't happen. This bill in question was about ensuring trading arrangements that have already been agreed continue after Brexit, it's nothing to do with future trade arrangements with the US or anyone else

Can I interest you in a tub of tartan paint?

[Elliot]

**** the tories **** the tories

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Elliot

**** the tories **** the tories

this immature comment has no place in SD so can the Mods delete it please?

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

this immature comment has no place in SD so can the Mods delete it please?

Maybe just report the comment rather than trying to make a point that you’ve read the article have no problem with it, have nothing to add but want to make sure everyone is aware of the former

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Maybe just report the comment rather than trying to make a point that you’ve read the article have no problem with it, have nothing to add but want to make sure everyone is aware of the former

i did, yesterday

and there is no article and i cant comment on the thread as there is no link, just a left-wing biased summary by the op?

(nothing wrong with a biased summary but that is what it is)