[Kizzy]

Parents are not infallible, to be still blaming your parents for your issues as an adult is immature.

As said the best thing to do as a kid rather than diet is activities. Gymnastics, trampolining, swimming, dance.

She sounds a bit bratty imo, attempting to shame your parents for suggesting ways to help you in your best interest is unfair and hurtful.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Parents are not infallible, to be still blaming your parents for your issues as an adult is immature.

As said the best thing to do as a kid rather than diet is activities. Gymnastics, trampolining, swimming, dance.

She sounds a bit bratty imo, attempting to shame your parents for suggesting ways to help you in your best interest is unfair and hurtful.

It really is, we've all, as parents did the wrong thing sometimes (not that I think they're even wrong here but you know) parents are just people doing what they think is best with the tools they have, If she ever has kids herself lets see how perfect she is.

[Kizzy]

She needs to work on her self esteem, she could start by washing her hair?

[The Slim Reaper]

Kizzy sending for Niamh

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

She needs to work on her self esteem, she could start by washing her hair?

[Liam-]

Ah yes, she’s not entitled to have feelings about something because parents aren’t perfect, that sounds very balanced and fair

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Ah yes, she’s not entitled to have feelings about something because parents aren’t perfect, that sounds very balanced and fair

She can have whatever feelings she wants Liam, she's the one who brought those feelings about her parents in to the media so i presume she doesn't mind having that discussed?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She can have whatever feelings she wants Liam, she's the one who brought those feelings about her parents in to the media so i presume she doesn't mind having that discussed?

Well that’s not what people are saying in here though is it? It seems people don’t really care that the smallest of things can effect children for the rest of their lives, but how dare they criticise their parents!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Well that’s not what people are saying in here though is it? It seems people don’t really care that the smallest of things can effect children for the rest of their lives, but how dare they criticise their parents!

Jeez Liam you don't need to get so outraged about it, it's just a discussion

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Jeez Liam you don't need to get so outraged about it, it's just a discussion

I’m not ‘outraged’ I just can’t believe there are people actually blaming her for the feelings something in her childhood caused her, I think most parents would be mortified that something they had done or said caused their child to have bad feeling about it into their adulthood

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Ah yes, she’s not entitled to have feelings about something because parents aren’t perfect, that sounds very balanced and fair

It's not fair on her parents to have their purported failings aired on national television..

If you have a problem tell a therapist or a councillor, what are the panel of loose women going to do to help? Their the most effed up bunch of dried up old crones on TV. All they know how to do is flog their tales of depression/ menopause/ divorce to the daily mirror.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's not fair on her parents to have their purported failings aired on national television..

If you have a problem tell a therapist or a councillor, what are the panel of loose women going to do to help? Their the most effed up bunch of dried up old crones on TV. All they know how to do is flog their tales of depression/ menopause/ divorce to the daily mirror.

Because maybe other parents can hear her experience and adjust how they deal with their kids as a result, would it have helped if she did it on this morning?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Because maybe other parents can hear her experience and adjust how they deal with their kids as a result, would it have helped if she did it on this morning?

If you're getting parenting advice from the pulsating mass of HRT that is loose women or Mr ' kids I've hid my true self from you all your life' Scofield. .There's something very wrong

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If you're getting parenting advice from the pulsating mass of HRT that is loose women or Mr ' kids I've hid my true self from you all your life' Scofield. .There's something very wrong

Idk which part of that to discuss first, the misogyny or the homophobia.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's not fair on her parents to have their purported failings aired on national television..

If you have a problem tell a therapist or a councillor, what are the panel of loose women going to do to help? Their the most effed up bunch of dried up old crones on TV. All they know how to do is flog their tales of depression/ menopause/ divorce to the daily mirror.

Having illnesses like depression discussed on a public platform does a lot of good for a lot of people and isn't deserving of derision. It's certainly not on the level of celebs sharing trashy stories about their lives.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Having illnesses like depression discussed on a public platform does a lot of good for a lot of people and isn't deserving of derision. It's certainly not on the level of celebs sharing trashy stories about their lives.

Does it? To people who actually do share/sell trashy stories about their lives.

Imo family therapy would've been a better way to go, that way her parents would have been able to hear and absorb how hurt she was without feeling judged by a load of over opinionated piss heads.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Does it? To people who actually do share/sell trashy stories about their lives.

Imo family therapy would've been a better way to go, that way her parents would have been able to hear and absorb how hurt she was without feeling judged by a load of over opinionated piss heads.

I was referring to your dismissive comments about "Loose Women" sharing stories of depression, I don't know if Jonathan Ross' daughter has depression.

Either way, it being discussed publicly helps reduce stigma and get people to seek help. Only a good thing.

[user104658]

The patriarchy's greatest weapon strikes again

[Liam-]

Everyone’s assuming she hasn’t previously discussed this issue with her parents, I have more sympathy for a person who was clearly affected by something as a child than the people who affected her, whether it was intentional or not.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Everyone’s assuming she hasn’t previously discussed this issue with her parents, I have more sympathy for a person who was clearly affected by something as a child than the people who affected her, whether it was intentional or not.

Even if she has what’s the point of having a go like that, if she wanted to get her point across she could have put it in a different way, it looked to me like she wanted to put the knife in, helped along by Granny Gloria who was loving the drama, if she had a decent relationship with her parents she wouldn’t be slagging them on day time TV, feels more like revenge, maybe the allowance has been stopped!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Everyone’s assuming she hasn’t previously discussed this issue with her parents, I have more sympathy for a person who was clearly affected by something as a child than the people who affected her, whether it was intentional or not.

...I guess that’s my main thought, Liam...that this is maybe something that she’d already discussed with her parents, that this would be ‘her point of debate‘ as it were when she knew that she would be on Loose Women...?...and it has indeed caught media attention ...(...and obviously we’re discussing it now...)....and that it was something that they are fine with....I read on DS that her dad had been asked for comment, so it’ll be interesting to see if he adds anything to it publicly....anyways, it’s one of those things for me when I feel for both ‘sides’ as it were...the ‘diet advice’ offered by her parents obviously had a very negative impact on her and that’s very sad......and her parent’s own sadness at that time would have come from seeing the child they loved so much, being so unhappy and hating herself so much....when all they would be able to see themselves was a most beautiful daughter...?...and all they would have wanted to see was that daughter’s happiness...I think at times as well when someone feels so low and miserable etc as Honey did...any advice might feel ‘insane and toxic’ just because some of it would be her own personal perspective as well and how she herself thought processes things etc...so it’s difficult because it’s never a one size fits all, type thing...for some people and some teenagers...?...diet advice would be a positive, life changing, type thing....I still have a dislike of the word diet in that context but you know what I mean....

....anyways, they all seem like a lovely and loving family and she’s trying to help others now to a better body confidence place......hopefully, no one will find her ‘influencing’ insane or toxic...but I think that the insane and toxic can sometimes come from within ourselves of just not always being in a place of receiving any ‘positive advice‘ yet...

[Cherie]

She said on that interview that 'she didn't choose her parents' and that her picture was taken at events she attended with them without her consent and posted online which is fair comment when she was little (apart from choosing her parents as no one can do that) , I wonder why she attended events at say age 16 when she could have stayed at home?

Anyhow I think it shows a lack of respect for her parents, it's reported that JR and his wife treated their kids more like friends than children, maybe that is the issue here

[bots]

there has obviously been a breakdown in relations between her and her parents, and it will be a lot deeper than their attitudes on dieting. It seems to me that the whole thing is a setup and she is cashing in on her parents success. No "normal" family would air their grievances in public - it's no-one elses business

[Liam-]

Jesus, compassion and understanding has gone out the window then these days

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Jesus, compassion and understanding has gone out the window then these days

It hasn't. . I have a lot of compassion for her, it's horrible to see how affected she is, I just fail to see how this will help her reconcile her emotional pain.
You hurt me so now I'm going to hurt you?.. what other message is there to get from this? Just pointing fingers isn't helping anyone.