[DouglasS]

And it’s been so overplayed now that people are scared of this ‘invisible killer’ despite it not actually really being a killer.. the 0.00001% of the population that die each day are already very unhealthy and ill. When it was at its peak sure maybe a few odd people a day dieing was not a vulnerable death - but that’s the same with the flu and other resporatory diseases

[Tom4784]

Anyone who is minimising it is a fool.

Boris ****ed it all up, he should have wrote measures into law earlier, masks should have been mandatory when it was known that they actually had a positive effect and not weeks/months later. Most countries that have handled it well so far have taken decisive action and have stuck to it. The tory government was wish washy until it was too late and have given out advice that's often proved contradictory ever since. It doesn't help that you have senior members of government openly flouting the rules to absolutely no consequences....

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Anyone who is minimising it is a fool.

Boris ****ed it all up, he should have wrote measures into law earlier, masks should have been mandatory when it was known that they actually had a positive effect and not weeks/months later. Most countries that have handled it well so far have taken decisive action and have stuck to it. The tory government was wish washy until it was too late and have given out advice that's often proved contradictory ever since. It doesn't help that you have senior members of government openly flouting the rules to absolutely no consequences....

So any member who does not agree with you is a fool.

Sorry but why are you so aggressive??

[MTVN]

There's no doubt imo that it was real bad in late March and April and that it would have been worse if we hadn't locked down, obviously the lockdown came at a massive cost though. I don't know how people can see that there were over 50,000 excess deaths over what is normal and not think the virus was a big danger. Lots of mistakes were made which hopefully wouldn't be made again, and that combined with much greater testing, track and trace, better drugs/knowledge to treat the virus, the means to impose restrictions locally, greater public awareness etc should mean that we don't witness a second wave like the first

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by MTVN

There's no doubt imo that it was real bad in late March and April and that it would have been worse if we hadn't locked down, obviously the lockdown came at a massive cost though. I don't know how people can see that there were over 50,000 excess deaths over what is normal and not think the virus was a big danger. Lots of mistakes were made which hopefully wouldn't be made again, and that combined with much greater testing, track and trace, better drugs/knowledge to treat the virus, the means to impose restrictions locally, greater public awareness etc should mean that we don't witness a second wave like the first

Most of those that died had under lying issues and elderly.

If the flue kills roughly 24 thousand people each winter and every winter it puts Covid into perspective

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Most of those that died had under lying issues and elderly.

If the flue kills roughly 24 thousand people each winter and every winter it puts Covid into perspective

I mean, we know the mortality rate of both quite conclusively now - seasonal flu is 0.1% and Covid-19 is 0.7%. So it's 7x worse than flu for the time being (that number is likely to drop as healthcare professionals get better at treating it) which isn't apocalyptic, but it isn't "nothing", it is significantly worse than flu.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Most of those that died had under lying issues and elderly.

If the flue kills roughly 24 thousand people each winter and every winter it puts Covid into perspective

And Covid killed more than twice that in basically two months with the strictest controls ever imposed in this country so yes that does put into perspective how bad it was

[thesheriff443]

No one gets out alive in the end.

You can die any time from conseption or any time there after

From killing yourself to being murdered from disease or by accident.

In this country alone 43 thousand odd so far compared with something like 68 million population the numbers are tiny.

I know it’s someones life, but like experts are saying there is more chance of getting hit and killed by a bus than dying of Covid.

[Kizzy]

Remember the advice when AIDS was discovered? 'Don't die of ignorance'?
Well that slogan needs reviving!

[Rob!]

Where's the option for "The goverment did awfully" amongst the options that are pretty much all the same?

[Ammi]

...I don’t think it was ‘got right’...but then, any new virus couldn’t have ever been ‘got right’ first time because of the unknowns, obviously...and those will be continued into the future as well/it’ll be ever evolving for a while yet, I think...and as sad as it is with so many deaths worldwide and so many families/loved ones grieving...and so many restrictions and adaptions and so many people without incomes etc..?...with something like this..‘getting it wrong’ has to be an essential as well, surely...to be able to advance in knowledge/in medical care/in vaccines and immunities etc...that’s how we and medical science learn and that’s how medical science will overcome/or control, by learning from some wrongs..?...I guess, in how much any individual country got it wrong...it’ll be seeing how wrong, though, each one got it in their own fights against it...and whether ‘all wrongs’ weren’t necessary and some could have been avoided and looking at the reasons they weren’t etc...

[bots]

the biggest lesson from this is that we could get another virus that could come along at any time and be even more devastating than this one. If we don't learn lessons from this, it genuinely could be the end of humanity. This to me more than anything has been a big wake up call

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Where's the option for "The goverment did awfully" amongst the options that are pretty much all the same?

I agree.
There was no option I could vote for in the poll either really.

There was danger realised, however, we as a Country and particularly the government, didn't get it spot on, otherwise we'd have had far less deaths and should have had far less too.

Whatever the current likely manipulated and understated figures presented may look like.

[Crimson Dynamo]

'There is NO second wave': Oxford expert says rise in UK Covid cases is because of 'increased testing' and those infected are 'young, healthy, symptomless people' who are unlikely to die or be hospitalised

• Mr Hancock spoke to MPs in the House of Commons for the first time since Parliament's summer break
• He said case numbers are rising 'exponentially' in France and Spain, and hospital cases are up, too
• The numbers of people testing positive for the virus in the UK are rising but hospitalisations and deaths aren't
• Experts say case numbers increasing is linked to mass testing and not to a second wave of infections
• Data shows the test positivity rate has remained relatively stable, suggesting more tests are causing rise

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-Ireland.html

[Strictly Jake]

I think it is too early to tell. But I do think they didnt act as fast as they should have done

What I do find interesting is with all the social distancing, masks etc etc in place whether things like other colds, flu, sickness bugs can be passed around, certainly in schools it will

And if those things can still be passed around then of course so can coronavirus

Hopefully we may be in for a winter where non of us get as ill as we usually do

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

What I do find interesting is with all the social distancing, masks etc etc in place whether things like other colds, flu, sickness bugs can be passed around, certainly in schools it will

There's a cold going around here (my wife and both kids have had it) so apparently it doesn't do **** .

Then again we know where it came from - my eldest daughter was off playing merrily with a friend a few weeks ago on a Saturday, then her friend's mum casually messages us on the Monday to say that she got her kid tested for Covid on the Friday as she had a sore throat, and the result came back (negative) on the Monday. She was letting her play with my kid on the Saturday! .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There's a cold going around here (my wife and both kids have had it) so apparently it doesn't do **** .

Then again we know where it came from - my eldest daughter was off playing merrily with a friend a few weeks ago on a Saturday, then her friend's mum casually messages us on the Monday to say that she got her kid tested for Covid on the Friday as she had a sore throat, and the result came back (negative) on the Monday. She was letting her play with my kid on the Saturday! :facepalm:.

don't let your kid play with kids with stupid parents is the moral of the story

[bots]

there are 100k children off school in Scotland with only a small % covid related. So, either the kids are sick or parents are keeping them away ....

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there are 100k children off school in Scotland with only a small % covid related. So, either the kids are sick or parents are keeping them away ....

Mine has gone back in today.....they lined them up and marched them off like they were on some kind of chain gang. I'll bet my house that social distancing lasted about 10 minutes

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there are 100k children off school in Scotland with only a small % covid related. So, either the kids are sick or parents are keeping them away ....

There are a couple of local council areas that are saying to keep kids off if they have any sign of any illness... so a little sniffle or feeling a bit tired, and they'll send them home. Really a pointless exercise going into winter - half of the school would be off.

[AnnieK]

I think we are in for a winter where we will all get more regular illnesses than normal simply because our immunity will have been affected by social distancing. I have cleaned and bleached everything that doesn't move (and a lot of things that do), kids haven't mixed the same and so now they are doing they will pick up things from each other that they wouldn't necessarily have done before because they develop an immunity to each other under normal circumstances

[armand.kay]

well everyone in my house got it and my uncle died

[thesheriff443]

If Covid killed everyone that caught it then it would be a super disease but it’s not.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If Covid killed everyone that caught it then it would be a super disease but it’s not.

And?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

And?

Cancer kills around 165 thousand every year around 450 a day every day.

Death is inevitable, Covid is just another risk and like the experts are saying you are more likely to get hit and killed by a bus than dying of Covid.