[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

He was being Searched
thats when he pulled out a Gun, Fast.

The Police Officer Killed was due for retirement
and he has family with kids.

Ref: Ch5HDnews Live

Really awful news

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

He was being Searched
thats when he pulled out a Gun, Fast.

The Police Officer Killed was due for retirement
and he has family with kids.

Ref: Ch5HDnews Live

horrific.

[Nicky91]

death penalty for this cop killer

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

death penalty for this cop killer

We don't have the death penalty Nicky

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

We don't have the death penalty Nicky

ah ok then, longest sentence then what your justice system can offer

such a disgusting murder, and reading how he was close to retirement makes it even more sad

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

death penalty for this cop killer

Na .. this is England. He’ll get 10 year sentence... serve about 4 and will spend millions of taxpayers money appealing for the time he’s in jail


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[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Na .. this is England. He’ll get 10 year sentence... serve about 4 and will spend millions of taxpayers money appealing for the time he’s in jail


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I think he'll get a whole life tariff if he doesn't get diminished responsibility. Dale Cregan got whole life when he killed the two officers in Manchester. I think the courts will come down hard on a cop killer

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...roydon-HQ.html

[Beso]

I can guarantee there wont be any looting in tooting, or rioting.

People will sleep like feck(happy birthday Naihm) alls happened

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I can guarantee there wont be any looting in tooting, or rioting.

People will sleep like feck(happy birthday Naihm) alls happened

Quite ,Parmy, there will be nothing,just questions asked about the police force.

[Crimson Dynamo]

yep

[Beso]

Nod back.

[arista]

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[Ammi]

...it’s really difficult to understand how the gun could have been overlooked somehow in searching him...but then he was still able to draw and shoot with his hands in handcuffs...it’s hard to try to imagine a whole situation with this...so very, very tragic, Matt Ratana’s family and loved ones facing their loss and grief in such a way......

...lots of questions and answers still to come but so much thought to his family...just tragic beyond words...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...it’s really difficult to understand how the gun could have been overlooked somehow in searching him...but then he was still able to draw and shoot with his hands in handcuffs...it’s hard to try to imagine a whole situation with this...so very, very tragic, Matt Ratana’s family and loved ones facing their loss and grief in such a way......

...lots of questions and answers still to come but so much thought to his family...just tragic beyond words...

Especially given he was arrested for firearms offences and was being monitored by the terrorist guys


I was thinking that some heads should roll for this oversight but it could quite easily be down to him being searched by a couple of untrained or under-trained cops who will have to live with this forever

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[bots]

i'm trying to understand how someone who is handcuffed with their hands behind their back, is capable of then using a concealed gun to shoot an officer and then himself. It doesn't seem particularly feasible with multiple officers around him

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm trying to understand how someone who is handcuffed with their hands behind their back, is capable of then using a concealed gun to shoot an officer and then himself. It doesn't seem particularly feasible with multiple officers around him

I can see it if his hands were loosely cuffed in front and the gun was down his pants but how could he turn it on himself There will be video footage which will be released in time I guess.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm trying to understand how someone who is handcuffed with their hands behind their back, is capable of then using a concealed gun to shoot an officer and then himself. It doesn't seem particularly feasible with multiple officers around him

My cousin and I used to play Cops and Robbers all the time, with practice one can easily crouch down and "step" through cuffed hands so they're at the front.

[caprimint]

Ugh this is awful

[thesheriff443]

You can be hand cuffed from the front and behind it depends on how someone was arrested
If it was by force it will be from behind but if they don’t put up a struggle it will be by the front.

I’ve been arrested without having hand cuffs put on.

[bots]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You can be hand cuffed from the front and behind it depends on how someone was arrested
If it was by force it will be from behind but if they don’t put up a struggle it will be by the front.

I’ve been arrested without having hand cuffs put on.

the news report said he was cuffed with his hands behind his back

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the news report said he was cuffed with his hands behind his back

Sorry didn’t read the report, I can’t see him being in hand cuffs to shoot the sergeant because you have at least one officer standing beside you at the booking in desk.