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Tom4784 · 06-01-2021, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

We should do both.

I will not, not after last time when Boris made out that gratitude was better than a pay rise. I will not engage in a self indulgent gesture masquerading as gratitude which will be used as an excuse not to pay these people what they are owed.

The NHS staff do not give a **** about your pots and pans, they do not give a **** about your claps. It does nothing to fix their struggles. **** the clapping, get them a pay rise.

Beso · 06-01-2021, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I will not, not after last time when Boris made out that gratitude was better than a pay rise. I will not engage in a self indulgent gesture masquerading as gratitude which will be used as an excuse not to pay these people what they are owed.

The NHS staff do not give a **** about your pots and pans, they do not give a **** about your claps. It does nothing to fix their struggles. **** the clapping, get them a pay rise.

I was clapping for myself last time.. this time I'm stronger, so will clap for others..I will think of others as I clap. My distant family I've not seen in ages, the nurses on my bus. I will clap and think of people gone. I will cry, I will then feel a dam site better..

So yeah I'm clapping..but this time im clapping for people who need it..

That's the beauty of the clapping...it dont have to be what the founder says it should be for.

Be yourself and clap for the things you want to clap for, all I'm saying is clap...get up to the windows and ****ing let yourself go for ten minutes.. it's a great release.

Saph · 06-01-2021, 10:23 PM

no doubt all the pretentious karens up my street will be out with their pots and pans making a ruckus

arista · 06-01-2021, 10:29 PM

Ammi · 07-01-2021, 05:42 AM

...there was obviously some very strong feelings about clapping for the NHS and it became a very political thing, which wasn’t obviously the original spirit of it...also, we saw images of people on the pavements of Westminster Bridge clapping and not observing safe spacing...it was all meant to be in own homes and through open windows etc, I think it started in Italy, if I recall..

...obviously everyone will decide for themselves whether they’ll do this but it’s surely not really accurate to attach it to anything felt about the NHS specifically because it’s basically clapping for so many people who we consider to be present day heroes... carers , teachers, home-schooling parents, those who are shielding, our refuse collection, delivery people and etc, etc...if some feel that it gives a personal feel good and boost and it’s done within the safety of the home from an open window...then it shouldn’t be negatively attached to any political meanings...the issue I guess is the ‘if it’s done safely’ etc...and ‘safely’ being decided by the individual but not necessarily within safety rules ...

Strictly Jake · 07-01-2021, 08:06 AM

The community aspect of the clapping is what encourages me to do it. The fact that all the neighbours are able to see each other smile and wave hello. It felt nice last time. That being said I still havent had a conversation with any of my neighbours and havent really seen them since the clapping stopped last time.

I think its just a farce! I dont see the point in it! We all appreciate the heroes!

This time id basically be clapping for myself anyway as im working full time as a cleaner

I would consider clapping if us "heroes" got the wages we deserve. But nope. Yet footballers get paid millions for kicking round a ball

So yeah its a farce. I wont be partaking this time around

joeysteele · 07-01-2021, 08:43 AM

I'm Happy to applaud the efforts of NHS staff, care staff and all carers.

However, I'm less comfortable doing so in the company of Government Ministers who choose to not fully reward for the intense above the call of duty service these carers do.

It's a pity the whole agenda isn't about popping out your front door, some just paying lip service to the efforts of care staff, but about ensuring proper rewards and recognition of those extra efforts.
By fair bonuses and far more as to better salaries too.

Cherie · 07-01-2021, 08:47 AM

What would be much better than clapping is if people actually abided by the rules and actually socially distanced, I hope no one who wears a mask on their chin steps out to clap

user104658 · 07-01-2021, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'm Happy to applaud the efforts of NHS staff, care staff and all carers.

However, I'm less comfortable doing so in the company of Government Ministers who choose to not fully reward for the intense above the call of duty service these carers do.

It's a pity the whole agenda isn't about popping out your front door, some just paying lip service to the efforts of care staff, but about ensuring proper rewards and recognition of those extra efforts.
By fair bonuses and far more as to better salaries too.

Literally everyone who spends 10 minutes clapping for the NHS on their doorstep every week clearnly has 10 minutes every week that they could spend writing to their representative in support of pay increases for NHS staff.

How many would actually bother?

Tom4784 · 07-01-2021, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Literally everyone who spends 10 minutes clapping for the NHS on their doorstep every week clearnly has 10 minutes every week that they could spend writing to their representative in support of pay increases for NHS staff.

How many would actually bother?

But you won't get as much attention on Facebook by actually doing something useful! If there's no video of you banging your pots and pans then how will you get likes?!

Beso · 07-01-2021, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

But you won't get as much attention on Facebook by actually doing something useful! If there's no video of you banging your pots and pans then how will you get likes?!

Low cut top and duck pouting.

Cherie · 07-01-2021, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Low cut top and duck pouting.

You could try it I suppose

joeysteele · 07-01-2021, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Literally everyone who spends 10 minutes clapping for the NHS on their doorstep every week clearnly has 10 minutes every week that they could spend writing to their representative in support of pay increases for NHS staff.

How many would actually bother?

Sadly probably few do.

I do however and have done before any lockdowns and in between the lockdowns too.
As well as applauding.

Writing and e mails.

Alf · 07-01-2021, 10:25 AM

I'm waxing my head that night.

Beso · 07-01-2021, 01:15 PM

Thank you Douglas.

Beso · 07-01-2021, 01:16 PM

Got a parking ticket today...what's everyone's views on traffic wardens being essential workers?

rusticgal · 07-01-2021, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Got a parking ticket today...what's everyone's views on traffic wardens being essential workers?

Law and Order is essential...

The Slim Reaper · 07-01-2021, 02:46 PM

Ammi · 07-01-2021, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

...the whole thing with applauding, though...is it’s meant to be within your own home, either at an open window or door...so people are sure still saying home and safe...

The Slim Reaper · 07-01-2021, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...the whole thing with applauding, though...is it’s meant to be within your own home, either at an open window or door...so people are sure still saying home and safe...

I don't think she means to stay in when the clap is happening. I think she means generally - to stop the spread and ease their workload. At least that's how I read it.

Ammi · 07-01-2021, 03:07 PM

...the issue is people not doing it safely and crowding on the pavement, as happened last year on Westminster Bridge...(...I’m not sure if it was just one time or if it was every time...)...so long as people stay within their homes then I don’t see that it’s something that has to be overly politicised, to show appreciation...it’s nice for elderly in the community and those shielding to be able to ‘feel their community’ around them....