[arista]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Every time you use the internet you are being tracked

Criminals could be tracked all the time but law abiding people would only be tracked if they went missing.

Not
if you are on a PC at your Office or Home

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That is not quite the same as having something in your body though is it

Exactly, you can't force people to have something implanted into their bodies. Having a smart phone is a choice as is going on the internet

[Oliver_W]

Microchipping everyone is a bit dystopian/communist/fascist for my tastes...

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Every time you use the internet you are being tracked

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If you carry a smart phone you are being tracked

There are relatively simple ways around both of these that criminals use frequently; like I said above microchips would be exactly the same. The only people you'd be able to track and control are the ones who are willing to be tracked and controlled... "the bad guys" would find a loophole and, potentially, even ways to spin the fact that everyone ELSE is chipped to their advantage.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There are relatively simple ways around both of these that criminals use frequently; like I said above microchips would be exactly the same. The only people you'd be able to track and control are the ones who are willing to be tracked and controlled... "the bad guys" would find a loophole and, potentially, even ways to spin the fact that everyone ELSE is chipped to their advantage.

think of the benefit to the average burglar if he knew no-one was going to disturb him while he was in action. A perfect world for crims is when everyone is tracked

[Captain.Remy]

Just like DNA tests, I'm not doing them due to confidentiality issues and data usage.
And yes, I'm a good guy, not a criminal and I am still against it.

And, um, fascism anyone? Let's never forget what happened in the concentration camps.
Also: privacy rights, freedoms etc It's wrong on so many levels.

[Tom4784]

There's enough tracking with phones and such, microchips are needless.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

There's enough tracking with phones and such, microchips are needless.

Not at birth
they do not have phones yet.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Microchipping everyone is a bit dystopian/communist/fascist for my tastes...

It could come in
due to the state the world is in.

[Vicky.]

China and such my get to this soon.

But yeah. 'Normal people' would go about their lives while being tracked, meanwhile there would be ways to disable/alter your chip available within 5 minutes for anyone who is..less than honest, should we say!

The 'bad side' would be the likes of..

Person 1 2 and 3 are in an area. Person 3 has disabled their chip. Person 1 is murdered. Records show only person 2 in the area. Person 2 is arrested and cannot prove innocence as their chip says they were the only ones around. That kind of thing tbh. And thats just the start of it..

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

There's enough tracking with phones and such, microchips are needless.

Throw a phone away and you are not being tracked anymore, people lost or being held captive would be found.

If Meghan McCann had been chipped we would know what happened to her and were she is.

[thesheriff443]

These chips would not be simple to remove and if you were found without a chip or messing with it you would go to prison.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

These chips would not be simple to remove and if you were found without a chip or messing with it you would go to prison.

This is just sounding more and more dystopian tbh

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Throw a phone away and you are not being tracked anymore, people lost or being held captive would be found.

If Meghan McCann had been chipped we would know what happened to her and were she is.

It's a silly argument to make. You're making out that everyone in the world should give up all forms of privacy to prevent occasional bad things from happening. Nothing will stop those things from happening, and to be frank, I'm not inviting 1984 to become anymore of a reality than it already is just because of fearmongering.

Thousands of people died to protect our rights, and few things annoy me quite as much as other people willingly giving up their rights out of fear. The fact that phones are tracked is more than enough.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

These chips would not be simple to remove and if you were found without a chip or messing with it you would go to prison.

And if your chip malfunctions somehow? Which is always a possibility with technology? Would look for all intents and purposes like you had it tampered with it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

This is just sounding more and more dystopian tbh

I think Sherriff is an infiltrator from North Korea

[thesheriff443]

What privacy do you lot think you really got I’ve just completed the census which must completed by law.

The government knows we’re you live who you live with how much you earn we’re and wen you last went abroad

They have access to police records they know if you have a driving licence.

People live basic lives reaping the same things eating the same things shopping in the same places going to the same places on holiday the idea that you any privacy apart from shutting your front door is a false one

[Vicky.]

Police records only identify those daft enough to get caught doing wrong though.

Also the ****ing census thing took me half an hour...quick check indeed

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Police records only identify those daft enough to get caught doing wrong though.

Also the ****ing census thing took me half an hour...quick check indeed

Exactly they know a lot about you would you agree?

[Vicky.]

Oh yeah. But we still do have some degree of privacy

I have never filled a census thing in before. They even asked all the 'are you in the army, do you have a degree' stuff about my 16 year old stepdaughter. Was seriously tempted to fill it in with degrees, phds and all sorts for her...stupid questions

[Vicky.]

That said, IF I was doing anything wrong, would be easy to alter the answers. So many filling it in, the likelihood of being picked up would be seriously minimal..

Same argument as before really. Those not doing wrong fill it in right, those who are doing wrong, have ways around it :S

[Glenn.]

What a ridiculous idea.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Throw a phone away and you are not being tracked anymore, people lost or being held captive would be found.

If Meghan McCann had been chipped we would know what happened to her and were she is.

Its Madelaine Mc Cann _~had Meghan been chipped we'd know for sure she'd not been shut in

[Josy]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

What privacy do you lot think you really got I’ve just completed the census which must completed by law.

The government knows we’re you live who you live with how much you earn we’re and wen you last went abroad

They have access to police records they know if you have a driving licence.

People live basic lives reaping the same things eating the same things shopping in the same places going to the same places on holiday the idea that you any privacy apart from shutting your front door is a false one

The point is the privacy we have got is entirely down to us as individuals and its a basic human right that no one has the right to forcefully take away.

If people choose to live off the grid, not use smart technology and so on then they won't be tracked the same way as others that choose not to live that way.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Its Madelaine Mc Cann _~had Meghan been chipped we'd know for sure she'd not been shut in

It could happen...