[Beso]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It doesn't.

You think teaching about the history of the slave trade creates racists?

No, it breeds contempt for honest white people

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

No, it breeds contempt for honest white people

Oh.... it creates racism against white people?

Yeah, ok.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

No, it breeds contempt for honest white people

Our ancestors were colonisers, rapists and more. It is simply a fact of life, what breeds contempt (and I certainly have a lot of it for people who dismiss history) is people being unwilling to accept the facts.

German people are raised knowing exactly what happened in WW2, they do not shy away from uncomfortable truths even though a lot of people alive today would not have been during WW2. They do this because they understand it can never happen again.

America's history is rooted in slavery and racism and to teach American history without touching on that is not teaching history at all, it's teaching a fairy tale to people who don't want the truth.

History is dark and twisted and full of lessons for us to learn from, to ignore it because some white people can't accept the truth of their lineage is just immature and dangerous.

[bots]

providing a balanced view of history becomes ever harder, that is where the problem lies in teaching it. I wonder how these times will be taught in the future. There are so many alternative facts and fake news, where do the historians start?

[GoldHeart]

That's backwards and laughable when they have statues all over the place of slave owners that they practically worship.

They can try and censor history all they want but it's all there in black and white ,and children are inquisitive and they'll do their research.

Education is important especially when it comes to serious issues and topics like this, being ignorant doesn't help.

[Strictly Jake]

Ooh I love when I manage to catch up with a thread where people are fighting before comments are deleted. Usually I'm too late

As for the topic history is so fascinating it's unfortunate that the history we focused on it UK schools was Henry 8th and his wives and that was just about it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Ooh I love when I manage to catch up with a thread where people are fighting before comments are deleted. Usually I'm too late

As for the topic history is so fascinating it's unfortunate that the history we focused on it UK schools was Henry 8th and his wives and that was just about it

im fairly;y certain you covered more than that and indeed would have looked at slavery as part of secondary History. I know I did.

what is a pity is that kids dont pay more attention in History or see it as a valid subject.

same for geography

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

im fairly;y certain you covered more than that and indeed would have looked at slavery as part of secondary History. I know I did.

what is a pity is that kids dont pay more attention in History or see it as a valid subject.

same for geography

I didn't cover slavery for secondary history. We did the industrial revolution in the Uk for GCSE. I think it depends on your school and the year as to what syllabus you cover

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I didn't cover slavery for secondary history. We did the industrial revolution in the Uk for GCSE. I think it depends on your school and the year as to what syllabus you cover

surely you watched ROOTS?

everyone of a certain age on this forum must have?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

surely you watched ROOTS?

everyone of a certain age on this forum must have?

Not when it first aired, I'm not that old

You said Jake must have studied it at school, I was just pointing out that every school and every year does different topics.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

surely you watched ROOTS?

everyone of a certain age on this forum must have?

Not everyone has seen Roots , and schools are very limited with what they actually teach. I remember thinking how weird it is how the focus was mostly on Henry the 8th and Hastings 1066 etc.

[Tom4784]

Ignoring the dark parts of the world's history won't do anything. History is filled with blood and it shouldn't be ignored. The only people who would suggest we forget about history are people who simply don't want to acknowledge the dark parts of their own heritage.

[Beso]

All these conflicts ain't new..they are decades and century old conflicts..

Jeez, forgive n forget for once.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

All these conflicts ain't new..they are decades and century old conflicts..

Jeez, forgive n forget for once.

So why shouldn't we teach them?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

So why shouldn't we teach them?

Cause kids are far to impressionable.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Cause kids are far to impressionable.

Kids are also inquisitive, so maybe we should quit trying to water down history .

[Beso]

Nah..you ain't convinced me dezzy.

I still think it should be banned from teaching.

[Tom4784]

Well, you're perfectly entitled to be wrong.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well, you're perfectly entitled to be wrong.

I'm also entitled to believe I'm right, and to continue to believe so.

[Beso]

Diana didnt die because of the system.
She died in a tunnel, miles and miles and miles away from her 2 precious boys, probably on the way to a shagging session with her fancy man.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I've never mentioned diana on here....

Except when you did...

Originally Posted by parmnion

Diana didnt die because of the system.
She died in a tunnel, miles and miles and miles away from her 2 precious boys, probably on the way to a shagging session with her fancy man.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Except when you did...

Along those lines.

Useless post, you need that deducted from your post count tbh.

[Tom4784]

Cognitive dissonance in action.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I googled it.

And you are trying to make out I'm changing **** up to help my mental state.

Well, look at Diana, I'm fairly sure you've held her up as an argument for your beliefs in the past, and the moment I use her to argue against a point you've made. You shift gears and make out she died because she went to see her 'fancy man'.

Instead of admitting the failures of your argument, you twisted things around to support a failing argument. You held contrasting beliefs and you warped one to support the other.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well, look at Diana, I'm fairly sure you've held her up as an argument for your beliefs in the past, and the moment I use her to argue against a point you've made. You shift gears and make out she died because she went to see her 'fancy man'.

Instead of admitting the failures of your argument, you twisted things around to support a failing argument. You held contrasting beliefs and you warped one to support the other.

I've never mentioned diana on here....I think she was a **** mum, so i reckon if i have mentioned her it would have been along those lines.