[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

this is an incredibly discriminatory viewpoint. Why is it more of an issue when marriage is involved vs not being married. At what point is a friendship between a younger and older person problematic. Should older people never associate with younger people in fear of being called an old perv?

People find friendships and love in the most unlikely settings, and I think it's very wrong to say something is wrong just because their is an age gap, particularly if it is perfectly legal. The only way we move forward as a society is if we understand different peoples viewpoints and outlawing relationships between young and old is only going to increase divisions and lack of understanding

BOTS people have always found big age gaps weird , especially when the younger person hasn't reached 21 yet.

I would personally feel uncomfortable at the thought of chasing a guy who's 18 ,and im nowhere near 50. I still think 18 year olds are young / immature , I know some people seem mature for their age but still.

Nobody is saying older people and younger people can't interact or be friendly , but as I've said already what could a 50 year old have in common with an 18 year old ? ,other than it being about sex and money ? .

Before she was born ,he was in his 30s you have to admit that's weird. But each to their own , I wonder if they ever get mistaken for father & daughter , that would be Hella AWKWARD .

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

this is an incredibly discriminatory viewpoint. Why is it more of an issue when marriage is involved vs not being married. At what point is a friendship between a younger and older person problematic. Should older people never associate with younger people in fear of being called an old perv?

People find friendships and love in the most unlikely settings, and I think it's very wrong to say something is wrong just because their is an age gap, particularly if it is perfectly legal. The only way we move forward as a society is if we understand different peoples viewpoints and outlawing relationships between young and old is only going to increase divisions and lack of understanding

While I personally find it weird, I do like this viewpoint.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

this is an incredibly discriminatory viewpoint. Why is it more of an issue when marriage is involved vs not being married. At what point is a friendship between a younger and older person problematic. Should older people never associate with younger people in fear of being called an old perv?

People find friendships and love in the most unlikely settings, and I think it's very wrong to say something is wrong just because their is an age gap, particularly if it is perfectly legal. The only way we move forward as a society is if we understand different peoples viewpoints and outlawing relationships between young and old is only going to increase divisions and lack of understanding

It’s not about the age of the older partner, nor is it about the size of the gap, it’s purely about the age of the younger partner.

If a 30 year old woman wants to marry a 70 year old man - for whatever reason - then while I’d find that unusual it’s not “creepy” and nor would it be strange for them to have things in common.

That’s a 40 year age gap.

If a 45 year old man is hooking up with 18 year old girls then yes it is massively questionable and creepy.

That’s a 27 year age gap. A full 13 years less than the above example - and yet, a totally different scenario.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It’s not about the age of the older partner, nor is it about the size of the gap, it’s purely about the age of the younger partner.

If a 30 year old woman wants to marry a 70 year old man - for whatever reason - then while I’d find that unusual it’s not “creepy” and nor would it be strange for them to have things in common.

That’s a 40 year age gap.

If a 45 year old man is hooking up with 18 year old girls then yes it is massively questionable and creepy.

That’s a 27 year age gap. A full 13 years less than the above example - and yet, a totally different scenario.

Exactly. An 18 year old is a teenager, still a child in a lot of ways, especially emotionally. Like I said my daughter was still in school at that age (your College is just the last 2 years of secondary school here) My son is 17 and he will still be in school at 18, if he came home with a 50 year old woman I would be very angry with that woman and seriously questioning her interest in -imo- a child. I would not be happy about that.

Of course I'd still have a lot of concerns about it if he were 30 and came home with a 62 year old such as him being able to have children, would he end up being a carer at a young age etc but not concerns that he was being taking advantage of or not emotionally capable for the relationship. There's a huge difference between the two even though the age gap would be the same

[bots]

People are really not understanding the issue here. This is out and out age discrimination. In the same way that you can't say an entire ethnic group are rapists or murders, you cannot say all people over a certain age are creepy perverts. Suggesting that an older person cannot be friends with someone younger is not only criminally insulting to that demographic it quite frankly an obscene restriction on the freedoms of what an older person can or cannot do.

That is my last words in this thread, but, honestly, i expected better

[Crimson Dynamo]

and thankfully rare

[ThomasC]

I disagree with most on here.

If they are both happy then so be it.

Who am I to disagree in something that doesn't concern me. They are both legal and as long as there's no element of grooming, coercion then good luck to them.

Whether it's creepy just because I don't agree with it, I don't know.

We all choose to live our lives how we see fit. Love is love.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

I disagree with most on here.



If they are both happy then so be it.



Who am I to disagree in something that doesn't concern me. They are both legal and as long as there's no element of grooming, coercion then good luck to them.



Whether it's creepy just because I don't agree with it, I don't know.



We all choose to live our lives how we see fit. Love is love.

With all due respect Thomas, you don't have kids (yet?) You may think differently then

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

With all due respect Thomas, you don't have kids (yet?) You may think differently then

Yeah maybe.

I don't know if I would be happy with the decision, but I'd just want them to be happy.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Yeah maybe.



I don't know if I would be happy with the decision, but I'd just want them to be happy.

I do want my kids to be happy but also safe and not taken advantage of

[MTVN]

Courtney Stodden vibes

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Courtney Stodden vibes

She is 27, though

[bots]

people call out other forms of discrimination on this forum at the drop of a hat, but ageism has been rampant for a long time. I'm not getting at anyone on this thread, but ageism is real and people need to educate themselves and think about what they are actually saying

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people call out other forms of discrimination on this forum at the drop of a hat, but ageism has been rampant for a long time. I'm not getting at anyone on this thread, but ageism is real and people need to educate themselves and think about what they are actually saying

Why do you keep calling it 'ageism' ? , when people have given valid reasons for their opinions. Especially when some people on this forum have children.

Like I said it's not illegal but it's still weird , you can't change that .

[bots]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Why do you keep calling it 'ageism' ? , when people have given valid reasons for their opinions. Especially when some people on this forum have children.

Like I said it's not illegal but it's still weird , you can't change that .

substitute "50 year old man" for any other discriminated group and see how long it would be before there was outrage

It is against the law to discriminate against someone purely on the basis of age. The point being that not only is it legal for a man to marry anyone of legal age, it is illegal to say he can't

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

substitute "50 year old man" for any other discriminated group and see how long it would be before there was outrage

It is against the law to discriminate against someone purely on the basis of age. The point being that not only is it legal for a man to marry anyone of legal age, it is illegal to say he can't

Agreed and I agree with your other post which was well articulated.

[thesheriff443]

I agree with bitontheside

I’d rather two people of different ages be happy than two people of the same age and the guy hitting and controlling his girlfriend

[Liam-]

Someone’s age doesn’t make them a creep if they get into a relationship with someone of the legal age, is it normal? No, is it for everybody? No, does it hurt anybody as long as both parties are legal and consenting? No.

I have a feeling people wouldn’t be so judgey if the subject was about an older woman tbh, older woman with younger partners are seen as some sort of liberated goddesses, enjoying their life, while older men are seen as perverts for even finding younger women attractive, it’s a blindingly obvious double standard

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Someone’s age doesn’t make them a creep if they get into a relationship with someone of the legal age, is it normal? No, is it for everybody? No, does it hurt anybody as long as both parties are legal and consenting? No.

I have a feeling people wouldn’t be so judgey if the subject was about an older woman tbh, older woman with younger partners are seen as some sort of liberated goddesses, enjoying their life, while older men are seen as perverts for even finding younger women attractive, it’s a blindingly obvious double standard

I'd find it just as creepy actually

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'd find it just as creepy actually

yep

and i would hope all members do

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Someone’s age doesn’t make them a creep if they get into a relationship with someone of the legal age, is it normal? No, is it for everybody? No, does it hurt anybody as long as both parties are legal and consenting? No.

I have a feeling people wouldn’t be so judgey if the subject was about an older woman tbh, older woman with younger partners are seen as some sort of liberated goddesses, enjoying their life, while older men are seen as perverts for even finding younger women attractive, it’s a blindingly obvious double standard

It doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman, it's still a big age gap and still weird. But as I said each to their own if it's a genuine relationship.

I know what you're saying though ,and sometimes there is a double standard and the guy is called a " creep " and usually the woman is seen as a "cougar" and it's laughed about . But some older women still get judged for dating younger men anyway .

Imo an 18 year old is still young and immature , they're usually naive. Can any of us say we had the same level of maturity when we were 18 ? as we do now ?. Obviously I know everyone is different though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ask any parent of an 18 years old boy or girl

How would you like your son and daughter to go out with a 50 year old?


100% answer the same

is all the point being made is

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Ask any parent of an 18 years old boy or girl

How would you like your son and daughter to go out with a 50 year old?


100% answer the same

is all the point being made is

As parents you don’t get to choose who your son or daughter has a relationship with


I know some coutures have an arranged marriage which I see as far more a messed up relationship

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Ask any parent of an 18 years old boy or girl

How would you like your son and daughter to go out with a 50 year old?


100% answer the same

is all the point being made is

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[bots]

i am making the point of the agism that exists on this forum. If I had made the same comment about an ethnic minority, i would have been hounded off the forum