[bots]

kids will make up their own reasons for santas being abstract, there is too much excitement around getting presents for inconsistencies to get in the way

I think the age where reasoning kicks in has lowered considerably since i was a kid. I think peer awareness that santa was faked kicked in about 7 years old for me, now i would imagine its first christmas at school

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

kids will make up their own reasons for santas being abstract, there is too much excitement around getting presents for inconsistencies to get in the way

I think the age where reasoning kicks in has lowered considerably since i was a kid. I think peer awareness that santa was faked kicked in about 7 years old for me, now i would imagine its first christmas at school

We actually had to tell Luke before he went into Secondary school, I asked him did he ever wonder about it and he said he never really thought about it and didn't seem bothered at all as long as he was getting his presents

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

kids will make up their own reasons for santas being abstract, there is too much excitement around getting presents for inconsistencies to get in the way

I think the age where reasoning kicks in has lowered considerably since i was a kid. I think peer awareness that santa was faked kicked in about 7 years old for me, now i would imagine its first christmas at school

In my experience it's not changed all that much, about 6 or 7 some start to realise and then they "play along" until around age 8 then all of the kids start pointing out it's not real. I'd say Christmas of 2nd year of primary was when the rumours started to circulate, it seemed that most still very much believed in the first year. My daughter was an "early sceptic" but we managed to make her more of a Santa Agnostic - she wanted to believe but she had her doubts and usually made this exact face on the topic - . She was quite adamant about being considerate and never "leaking" this forbidden knowledge to friends or classmates though.

[Livia]

Why can't a black kid get a gift from an established character who is white? Why do we have to change a character that goes back centuries, and who comes from the Arctic, into a black character?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Livia

Why can't a black kid get a gift from an established character who is white? Why do we have to change a character that goes back centuries, and who comes from the Arctic, into a black character?

because kids are indoctrinated from an early age, so they are aware of differences rather than just accepting something for what it is. First year at school i think is the marker these days for the ending of a childs innocence which i personally think is very sad

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

because kids are indoctrinated from an early age, so they are aware of differences rather than just accepting something for what it is. First year at school i think is the marker these days for the ending of a childs innocence which i personally think is very sad

Honestly BOTS unless it's very different from school to school or has changed dramatically in the last couple of years this has not been my experience at all. My eldest started high school this year and her Primary School experience was extremely familiar to me as it seemed to be really no different at all to my own Primary School experience (in wonder years of 1990 - 1997). Quite bizarrely so in fact given the 30 year gap between the two. So little has changed .

Like I said though maybe that's not typical? My daughter did go to a rather "quaint" school where the "poverty line" was a lower-middle-class income.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Why not remake King Kong and use a LLama instead

or Jurassic Park 6 but instead of Dinosaurs use Tortoises


Obviously, it would be a 12-hour movie if you were to include the chase scenes

[Livia]

Youtube video

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Livia

Youtube video

[Parmy]

Do they say ho ho ho, or yo yo yo?

[Good King Glennceslas]

Why would they say yo yo yo?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Why would they say yo yo yo?

Cause all.my black friends say yo.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Cause all.my black friends say yo.

That’s not a ‘black’ thing though… white people say it too so I’m just wondering why that was your first thought

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

That’s not a ‘black’ thing though… white people say it too so I’m just wondering why that was your first thought

It's a very black thing in my friendship circles.

[Candy Annie Cane]

My son was an early disbeliever but he is in Year 6 now and a lot of his friends still believe. He knew never to spill the beans to his friends and is just quite smug in his knowledge
I don't believe in lying to him and so when he asked me the "is he real" question, I had to tell him the truth as much as it killed the magic for me.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Im old enough to remember when Micahel Jackson was black

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Im old enough to remember when Micahel Jackson was black

that was a skin complaint as you well know, just as it was fake news that he had any plastic surgery

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

that was a skin complaint as you well know, just as it was fake news that he had any plastic surgery

my bad

I also remember he wasn't a paedo he just liked children more than adults

especially in his bed

[Alf]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Im old enough to remember when Micahel Jackson was black

And when Des o'connor was White.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

I very much doubt that any of the great masters who depicted Jesus in art had ever set foot in Palestine let alone had any idea what a first Century Palestine man aged 30 looked like.

Cultures tend to portray prominent religious figures to look like the dominant racial identity and artists paint generally for likes and money...

go figure

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I very much doubt that any of the great masters who depicted Jesus in art had ever set foot in Palestine let alone had any idea what a first Century Palestine man aged 30 looked like.

Cultures tend to portray prominent religious figures to look like the dominant racial identity and artists paint generally for likes and money...

go figure

What's Martin Scorsese's excuse?

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What's Martin Scorsese's excuse?

Or Franco Zeffirelli's

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What's Martin Scorsese's excuse?

[Liam-]

Black man gets a job as a fictional character, stop the press, the world is ending!!!!

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Black man gets a job as a fictional character, stop the press, the world is ending!!!!

At least you're getting it.

Seriously though I think it would be more weird to me if the character's race was a defining element of the character.

for me, Aang in The Last Airbender Film not looking Asian even though he has got a bloody Chinese name was the worst.