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Old 03-05-2022, 10:43 AM #1
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I just can't believe what the far left has made these judges do. The same people that both support and have actioned this, have been adopted as the new champions for women in a different context.

Republicans have been trying to cancel this since it was first made law, and all it required was the right ideology and numbers on the supreme court. If trans people didn't exist, this would have still happened, and there is no evidence to suggest or pretend otherwise.
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I just can't believe what the far left has made these judges do. The same people that both support and have actioned this, have been adopted as the new champions for women in a different context.

Republicans have been trying to cancel this since it was first made law, and all it required was the right ideology and numbers on the supreme court. If trans people didn't exist, this would have still happened, and there is no evidence to suggest or pretend otherwise.
No one said otherwise and no one is in any doubts that it's the Republican/right/(church) elements of US politics who want this to be the case, it also (as always) has nothing to do with the strawman of "trans people not existing". It's about the openness and willingness to discuss issues affecting women without caveats and constraints and that is (without question) being eroded.
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No one said otherwise and no one is in any doubts that it's the Republican/right/(church) elements of US politics who want this to be the case, it also (as always) has nothing to do with the strawman of "trans people not existing". It's about the openness and willingness to discuss issues affecting women without caveats and constraints and that is (without question) being eroded.
There is complete openness when it comes to discussing issues affecting women; at least 5 judges in this story have had that debate and acted on their opinions and I'm pretty sure all 5 of those judges would align with the tibb majority when it comes to issues around gender. This action is purely about an outdated constitution and ideology, nothing else.

It's boogeymanning gender as a scary future wedge, when the actual reality of what is happening in real time is clear and obvious.
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i was reading about this yesterday, and it came as quite a surprise to me that the original ruling back in the 70's only applied because a single judge changed their mind at the last minute to allow women to have an abortion.

The point i'm making is that what america is doing now is not something new. There has always been anger at that ruling. America really is quite a **** hole
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i was reading about this yesterday, and it came as quite a surprise to me that the original ruling back in the 70's only applied because a single judge changed their mind at the last minute to allow women to have an abortion.

The point i'm making is that what America is doing now is not something new. There has always been anger at that ruling. America really is quite a **** hole
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Awful. I can't see this happening though. I feel the centralist's will play a big part, with the left, in not allowing this to go through.
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Awful. I can't see this happening though. I feel the centralist's will play a big part, with the left, in not allowing this to go through.
there arent any centrists, its a certainty it will go through with the current configuration of the supreme court
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there arent any centrists, its a certainty it will go through with the current configuration of the supreme court
There definitely are centralist's in the US. I know one personally who i speak to every single day. I also game with a lot of people from the US who are left leaning centralist's. They just aren't very vocal in the general scheme of things. But this will see them unite, with the left, against this, im sure.
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There definitely are centralist's in the US. I know one personally who i speak to every single day. I also game with a lot of people from the US who are left leaning centralist's. They just aren't very vocal in the general scheme of things. But this will see them unite, with the left, against this, im sure.
but this is only about supreme court judges, they make the decision and i think the current make up is 6 pro life to 3 status quo
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Awful. I can't see this happening though. I feel the centralist's will play a big part, with the left, in not allowing this to go through.
November the State Elections
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Thats why some Left winger leaked it
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Thats why some Left winger leaked it
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You have no idea whether it was a left winger that leaked it - it could actually be an old school genuine conservative that has issues with it.

Unless the name of the person has leaked and I'm not aware.
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You have no idea whether it was a left winger that leaked it - it could actually be an old school genuine conservative that has issues with it.

Unless the name of the person has leaked and I'm not aware.

NBC said it was likely a Left winger leak


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"Fellow Republican senator Josh Hawley said: "I will say, if this is the court’s
opinion, it’s a heck of an opinion. Voluminously researched, tightly argued, and
morally powerful."

He blamed Democrats for the unprecedented leak from the Supreme Court.


Mr Hawley said: "The Left continues its assault on the Supreme Court with an
unprecedented breach of confidentiality, clearly meant to intimidate."

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this is the federal supreme court making the decision which is heavily biased toward pro life republicans, nothing to do with local elections. If after that, states decide to implement it, then thats their call
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this is the federal supreme court making the decision which is heavily biased toward pro life republicans, nothing to do with local elections. If after that, states decide to implement it, then thats their call

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There are even Pro Life Left Wingers
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After the US elected Trump I'm not going to be surprised at anything they do.
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'Right to abortion is not deeply rooted in our history'

Justice Alito said abortion was not mentioned in the US Constitution and the issue
should be decided by politicians.

He wrote: "The inescapable conclusion is that a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in
the nation’s history and traditions.

"The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each state from regulating or
prohibiting abortion.

"Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return
that authority to the people and their elected representatives."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...ortion-rights/
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'Right to abortion is not deeply rooted in our history'

Justice Alito said abortion was not mentioned in the US Constitution and the issue
should be decided by politicians.

He wrote: "The inescapable conclusion is that a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in
the nation’s history and traditions.

"The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each state from regulating or
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"Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return
that authority to the people and their elected representatives."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...ortion-rights/
The right to abortion is not deeply rooted in anyone's history. And that's because, in the words of John Lennon, "woman is the n***** of the world".
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The right to abortion is not deeply rooted in anyone's history. And that's because, in the words of John Lennon, "woman is the n***** of the world".
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That's not what he did, he posted a comment by one of the leaders of the January 6th coup attempt, saying there is a LW attack on the court. It could well be a lw leaker for all any of us know, but it could also be a rw leaker, and until it's revealed, none of us know anything more than anyone else.
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