[jet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think at lot moans/complaining, home and abroad, is related to the fact that they are pushing the boat out for a celebration of an elitist, over privileged family that no-one respects in the least. Yeah, people will congratulate the queen, she has been around a long time, but the rest of the family are a pretty shameful bunch that don't deserve any respect at all

I disagree, from what I've been reading and recent polls, more people want the monarchy to continue after the Queen goes than not.
....and what do you find shameful about William and Kate, Edward and Sophie, Princess Anne for example?

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I doubt they'd have boo'd Wee Liz which is (IMO) illustrative of the future of the monarchy. It'll die with her. Slowly, over several decades, it'll outlast Charles even, but it'll all ultimately be over with The Queen. She's been reigning monarch for so long that not many have another in living memory. Britain does not have a monarchy... Britain has "The Queen" and no one will ever view Charles or William in that same light. That goes for both domestic and international perception.

Facts, William's children won't be seeing the throne.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by jet

I disagree, from what I've been reading and recent polls, more people want the monarchy to continue after the Queen goes than not.
....and what do you find shameful about William and Kate, Edward and Sophie, Princess Anne for example?

they are all elitist and over privileged. I would remove the lot of them in an instant. We still have the history which is what the tourists come for. The number of royal events that there are throughout the year pale into insignificance to the value of our history

[jet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they are all elitist and over privileged. I would remove the lot of them in an instant. We still have the history which is what the tourists come for. The number of royal events that there are throughout the year pale into insignificance to the value of our history

Remove them, sure - but they will still be elitist and over privileged, like many others, without having to do all that boring stuff. They might even thank you.

[MTVN]

Republicanism is still pretty niche in this country tbh and I don't see that changing simply because its not a priority for most people and no government is going to take the risk of proposing its abolition. I actually think the monarchy now is a lot more stable than it was a hundred years ago now that it's settled into its largely ceremonial role

It's not like this country is the only one with a royal family, several other European countries still have theirs and seem to manage just fine through periods of succession

[Oliver_W]

Tbh I've never heard an argument in favour of abolishion which is stronger than "it is the current year". There's just no need.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Republicanism is still pretty niche in this country tbh and I don't see that changing simply because its not a priority for most people and no government is going to take the risk of proposing its abolition. I actually think the monarchy now is a lot more stable than it was a hundred years ago now that it's settled into its largely ceremonial role

It's not like this country is the only one with a royal family, several other European countries still have theirs and seem to manage just fine through periods of succession

The Queen is still alive though... like I said I think a large number are supporters of Queen Elizabeth II, not the wider concept of monarchy.

That said you may well be right - just because there's no particular passion for the monarchy, doesn't mean there's much of a drive to remove it either, if it's seen as inert. So maybe it will continue through sheer apathy .

[bitontheslide]

i think Andrew did severe damage to the firm, i think M&H have created their own disquiet. I think people are being polite for now because of the queen, but if Andrew tries to raise his head again during Charles reign, it will be off to the tower

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The Queen is still alive though... like I said I think a large number are supporters of Queen Elizabeth II, not the wider concept of monarchy.

That said you may well be right - just because there's no particular passion for the monarchy, doesn't mean there's much of a drive to remove it either, if it's seen as inert. So maybe it will continue through sheer apathy .

Yeah it will be interesting to see how much the monarchy's popularity will hold up post-Liz, I think both Charles and William will be fairly stable Kings though. I don't expect there to be a change in any of our lifetimes honestly although more and more commonwealth countries will probably become Republics

[Cherie]

If Charles scales back the monarchy as has been suggested, it will be a popular move

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If Charles scales back the monarchy as has been suggested, it will be a popular move

also if he invades Liverpool and annexes it off to Eire

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

also if he invades Liverpool and annexes it off to Eire

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Facts, William's children won't be seeing the throne.

oh dear oh dear.....its not a Fact...its just your opinion.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle told The Mail on Sunday: “I utterly condemn any fans who booed Prince William at Wembley.

“The FA Cup final should be an occasion when we come together as a country. It should not be ruined by a minority of fans’ totally shameful behaviour. In this year of all years – the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee – this is dreadful.”

Conservative MP and former Culture Secretary Karen Bradley added: “It is utterly unacceptable and disgraceful that fans booed Prince William. I would urge the FA to take all necessary action and pursue those responsible.”

Sir Ed Davey, leader of the Liberal Democrats, said: “We have the most wonderful Monarch and those fans who booed do not represent their clubs or our country.”

DT

Karen Bradley wants people punished because they booed William?

While I don't agree with them booing him, they haven't done anything legally wrong.

[parmnion]

The monarchy has to live on for all our laws to stand...its either anarchy, or the rest of our lives are governed by some self entitled old men in Charles, then william.

Luckily for me, I've had 52 years of the most wonderful, dedicated grand old woman looking after us.


Good luck to you millennials, but I guess it's what all your disrespectful arses deserve.

Enjoy your 52 years.