[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

So shouldnt their religious beliefs be accepted like the school want to teach into the children during religious education?

Exactly the opposite; schools should teach observable knowledge and theory and not pander to anti-scientific religious dogma. If parents want their kids to be taught about spooky ghosts in caves and bearded men in the sky (as fact, rather than as myth), they can homeschool or send them to a specific religious school. Fairy tales have no place in a secular state education other than as stories.

I would be concerned if high school sex ed classes actually were "peddling an agenda" but as far as I can tell from actual real-world accounts that isn't happening, or at least, it certainly isn't happening here. Yet? Who knows, but currently it isn't.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Exactly the opposite; schools should teach observable knowledge and theory and not pander to anti-scientific religious dogma. If parents want their kids to be taught about spooky ghosts in caves and bearded men in the sky (as fact, rather than as myth), they can homeschool or send them to a specific religious school. Fairy tales have no place in a secular state education other than as stories.



I would be concerned if high school sex ed classes actually were "peddling an agenda" but as far as I can tell from actual real-world accounts that isn't happening, or at least, it certainly isn't happening here. Yet? Who knows, but currently it isn't.

So it's ok for kids to be taught men can be women, but not ok to teach them about god. Is that what you agree with?

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[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

So it's ok for kids to be taught men can be women, but not ok to teach them about god. Is that what you agree with?

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It's ok (in fact, important) for kids to be taught that some men call themselves women and personally identify as women, just as it's OK to teach children that some people are religious and believe in various gods (these are facts about the world and society).

It's not OK to teach kids that some men ARE women, or that there IS a god (these are opinions that some believe and some don't).

[Livia]

Because everyone with a faith is an idiot. I hear it on here day after day as nauseum.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Because everyone with a faith is an idiot. I hear it on here day after day as nauseum.

I don't think everyone who has faith is unintelligent. Some are of course just following what they've been taught generationally without question and that is pretty dumb, but there are of course plenty who have their own individual faith through what I'd describe as (very briefly; it's obviously much more complex) elaborate wishful thinking. If you WANT something to be true badly enough, you can make it make sense.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I don't think everyone who has faith is unintelligent. Some are of course just following what they've been taught generationally without question and that is pretty dumb, but there are of course plenty who have their own individual faith through what I'd describe as (very briefly; it's obviously much more complex) elaborate wishful thinking. If you WANT something to be true badly enough, you can make it make sense.

What I understand is this: people without faith really don't understand it and reduce it to the ridiculous.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

What I understand is this: people without faith really don't understand it and reduce it to the ridiculous.

I understand it, the definition is in the term "faith" - unfounded belief.

Everyone has the right to believe as they believe and live their life as they want to live it, but teaching unfounded claims in schools as anything more than what they factually are ("this is what some people believe") is not an education it's an indoctrination. "God Is Real"/"Trans Women Are Women" ... there's no substantive difference in these statements - but you have no issue at all in insisting that one shouldn't be taught to children.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I understand it, the definition is in the term "faith" - unfounded belief.

Everyone has the right to believe as they believe and live their life as they want to live it, but teaching unfounded claims in schools as anything more than what they factually are ("this is what some people believe") is not an education it's an indoctrination. "God Is Real"/"Trans Women Are Women" ... there's no substantive difference in these statements - but you have no issue at all in insisting that one shouldn't be taught to children.

I bet you really love your wife and kids. You won't be able to explain that love but you know it's real. If I asked you to prove it, you couldn't. Your love is real so trans women are real?

For the record, I don't think one religion should be taught in schools. I went to religious school outside normal school hours.

[Oliver_W]

Yeah RSE is generally "agenda free" at the moment.

[Liam-]

Sure, do I think made up religions are more important than important life lessons? Absolutely not, but parents have the right to parent their child how they want to as long as they’re not being abused or put in danger, if parents want to raise their children to be sheltered and repressed by religion? Awful, but that’s their prerogative

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Sure, do I think made up religions are more important than important life lessons? Absolutely not, but parents have the right to parent their child how they want to as long as they’re not being abused or put in danger, if parents want to raise their children to be sheltered and repressed by religion? Awful, but that’s their prerogative

Again, you're speaking as if you know something people with faith don't. You don't understand it so it's stupid.

[Parmy]

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Youtube video

teachers...

[Oliver_W]

Oh yeah these people being paid to educate children, how dare they expect to be paid fairly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Oh yeah these people being paid to educate children, how dare they expect to be paid fairly.

and a tiny minority of "union execs" tell them what is "fair" to justify their own jobs

what jobs get a "fair wage"?

bin men
tree-surgeons
hookers
Accountants
Roofers

?

[Oliver_W]

Hardly anyone is getting fair pay rises, hence the mass dissatisfaction and strikes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Hardly anyone is getting fair pay rises, hence the mass dissatisfaction and strikes.

what is fair after a pandemic and with a war in Europe?

if you never lost a days wage in Pandemic how fair is bleating about wages to those that lost 12 months?

If you sat on your arse at home on full pay pretending to do a day's work in 2 hours?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what is fair after a pandemic and with a war in Europe?

if you never lost a days wage in Pandemic how fair is bleating about wages to those that lost 12 months?

If you sat on your arse at home on full pay pretending to do a day's work in 2 hours?

dont judge SB too harshly

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

dont judge SB too harshly

It's not LT's fault that he conflates economic worth to a company with "man hours" of mindless labour rather than the value of experience and the work produced ... I understand that it must be frustrating to still be nose-to-the-grindstone like that. We've all been there. Heck, we all may be back there if everything goes to **** . But why begrudge it in the meantime just because you don't have it? I've done my time damnit .

[Crimson Dynamo]

shirk from home

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

shirk from home

You work from home

I have just done my work on my laptop in bed

[Cherie]

Kevin Ford, 54, is set to get over $400,000, the equivalent of £318,180, for his retirement.

This is in recognition of his services as an employee of Burger King where he works in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Last year, a video of Mr Ford went viral which showed him opening up a gift bag as a reward for not missing a day of work in 27 years.

Thousands of Americans were moved by the clip and believed he should be given another gift.

Since then, a GoFundme fundraiser for his retirement has been set up in his honour, which has seen donations from celebrities such as David Spade.

Currently, the campaign has raised $401,670 (£319,508.40) for Mr Ford's retirement with the goal to hit $450,000 (£357,952.50).

His daughter Seryna set up the fundraiser to help pay for her father to visit his grandchildren in Texas.

Originally, the goal was a couple of hundred dollars but has since ballooned to over $400,000 very quickly.

She shared on the page why she has set up a GoFundMe fundraiser for her father's retirement.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...e6fac569&ei=11

[Cherie]

I shall be setting up a Cherie's very early retirement Go fund me page, please give what you can to this worthy cause

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Kevin Ford, 54, is set to get over $400,000, the equivalent of £318,180, for his retirement.

This is in recognition of his services as an employee of Burger King where he works in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Last year, a video of Mr Ford went viral which showed him opening up a gift bag as a reward for not missing a day of work in 27 years.

Thousands of Americans were moved by the clip and believed he should be given another gift.

Since then, a GoFundme fundraiser for his retirement has been set up in his honour, which has seen donations from celebrities such as David Spade.

Currently, the campaign has raised $401,670 (£319,508.40) for Mr Ford's retirement with the goal to hit $450,000 (£357,952.50).

His daughter Seryna set up the fundraiser to help pay for her father to visit his grandchildren in Texas.

Originally, the goal was a couple of hundred dollars but has since ballooned to over $400,000 very quickly.

She shared on the page why she has set up a GoFundMe fundraiser for her father's retirement.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...e6fac569&ei=11

I hear "no sick days in X years" and instantly assume "****er came to work sick countless times, got other people sick, and cost the company and the customers 100x more productivity than he would have if he'd just stayed home".

The idea of "come in at all costs" is such a false economy. MULTIPLE times as a manager I had a staff member come in sick (as in properly sick) "not wanting to inconvenience people" only to get 3 other members of staff sick as well. Madness. If you're ill stay at home ffs.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I hear "no sick days in X years" and instantly assume "****er came to work sick countless times, got other people sick, and cost the company and the customers 100x more productivity than he would have if he'd just stayed home".

The idea of "come in at all costs" is such a false economy. MULTIPLE times as a manager I had a staff member come in sick (as in properly sick) "not wanting to inconvenience people" only to get 3 other members of staff sick as well. Madness. If you're ill stay at home ffs.

This.

I meeeaaaaan ... Not to demean anyone, but he only works at Burger King does it really matter if someone doesn't show up? Especially in a place where they're handling food, as you say.