[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Because everyone with a faith is an idiot. I hear it on here day after day as nauseum.

I don't think everyone who has faith is unintelligent. Some are of course just following what they've been taught generationally without question and that is pretty dumb, but there are of course plenty who have their own individual faith through what I'd describe as (very briefly; it's obviously much more complex) elaborate wishful thinking. If you WANT something to be true badly enough, you can make it make sense.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I don't think everyone who has faith is unintelligent. Some are of course just following what they've been taught generationally without question and that is pretty dumb, but there are of course plenty who have their own individual faith through what I'd describe as (very briefly; it's obviously much more complex) elaborate wishful thinking. If you WANT something to be true badly enough, you can make it make sense.

What I understand is this: people without faith really don't understand it and reduce it to the ridiculous.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

What I understand is this: people without faith really don't understand it and reduce it to the ridiculous.

I understand it, the definition is in the term "faith" - unfounded belief.

Everyone has the right to believe as they believe and live their life as they want to live it, but teaching unfounded claims in schools as anything more than what they factually are ("this is what some people believe") is not an education it's an indoctrination. "God Is Real"/"Trans Women Are Women" ... there's no substantive difference in these statements - but you have no issue at all in insisting that one shouldn't be taught to children.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I understand it, the definition is in the term "faith" - unfounded belief.

Everyone has the right to believe as they believe and live their life as they want to live it, but teaching unfounded claims in schools as anything more than what they factually are ("this is what some people believe") is not an education it's an indoctrination. "God Is Real"/"Trans Women Are Women" ... there's no substantive difference in these statements - but you have no issue at all in insisting that one shouldn't be taught to children.

I bet you really love your wife and kids. You won't be able to explain that love but you know it's real. If I asked you to prove it, you couldn't. Your love is real so trans women are real?

For the record, I don't think one religion should be taught in schools. I went to religious school outside normal school hours.